Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

@4cqo what specifically has been turned around? Employees are dying while working, trains move at a crawl, and management is focusing solely on busting employees for critical rules infractions. Once again no one in management, not one single manager will say the truth out loud. If every rule is going to be followed, if employees are going to slow down and be safe AND(!) all the work is going to be completed on time. Mech and engineering depts need more employees. But every single manager acts like they cant see that. They cant think about it, they cant mention it out loud, therefore they wont suggest it out loud. Managers live in this twilight zone of hoping nothing goes wrong, doing nothing to ever improve operations, but readying themselves to blame hopelessly over worked agreement employees if something does go wrong. Some managers I know even say they hope the govt steps in and improves things? They’re management! They know things are sc--wed up but they want an outside 3rd party to come force about improvements? Why are they even paid if they always want someone else to do everything that needs to be done?

@4cqo What? You can't be serious! You pointed out the exact problems that @3ctz described! What did Vena turn around???Morale is still at an all-time low. Equipment is falling apart and not being fixed. Management went from bad to worse, and simply can't be trusted. People are still leaving. Management is constantly changing the rules and coming up with new ways to try to get people on a critical rule infraction and fired. Fritz himself knew the company was headed in the wrong direction and tried changing it before he was forced out. That's why there was a rehiring push, remember? Remember the government hearing where Fritz got grilled about the service issues, excessive use of embargoes, and the very high demurrage/accessorial fees? Do you remember the hearing about the lack of manpower that lead to the service issues, because I do. I do remember quite well when he was hired the first time, as does thousands of others that lost their jobs. Thousands of men and women at the UP lost their jobs directly because of Vena and the executives catering to the shareholders. The bad publicity and government hearings were directly caused by Vena and the poor decisions himself and the executives made. You can lie to yourself and kiss Venas' a$$ all day long, because it won't change the truth. Let ME reiterate this. THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE UP LOST THEIR JOBS DIRECTLY BECAUSE OF VENA AND HIS PSR EFFORTS. Remember, Vena was brought in by the shareholders to run the PSR playbook. I only mentioned that small detail, because you left it out. The men and women of the UP have eyes too! Most if not all of them are able to use those eyes to see past the BS. Vena should've stayed retired. The company wasn't great under Fritz at all, but Vena took the company to wide open throttle going downhill. It's kind of hard to argue on here about Vena turning anything around, especially when he was the direct cause of the problems to begin with.

3ctz+1vcpr7W5. Vena has actually done a decent job of turning the railroad around. You have to remember when he was hired the first time, the shareholders wanted extremely high profit so they told him to cut. Let me reiterate that. The Shareholders wanted higher profits. Now with the bad publicity and the government watching the shareholders have backed off and he has actually done a decent job.

It may or may not be be true, but some need to really consider it as truth. A year or more into the PSR game with Fritz, mistakes were definitely made, service went to sh1t, and the company managed to achieve the worst employer in North America award. There was so many people that said Fritz wasn't going anywhere just a few months before he was actually being forced to resign. The biggest problem with him being forced to resign, was that they brought back the very person who caused all the dam problems in the first place. Is Vena on his way out? I sure hope so! Who would take his place? I can only pray on that one! Whoever does take his place, better know what they're doing! Also whoever takes his place, better start looking after the employees. Union Pacific is a company that can't be trusted by its customers or it's employees. The next CEO better have a spine strong enough to stand up to Wall Street, or this game will just repeat itself.

Was it just a rumor I heard or did he actually promise the shareholders $300 by the end of 2024?????

Your dreaming.
Stop posting gossip

Gemco yard was plugged this weekend and is fup!
More to come

I agree, for the last 22 years of me being an engineer every day is a different day. Every trip is a different trip. For the last 22 years I know that have spent over 30 billion trying to make this company viewed as a corporation as if it sits next to the stock exchange. These executives hate, despise the word railroad, they don't even know the history of it, they don't have a law firm that understands the contracts and agreements, each and every time each CEO and Leadership come with nonsense, it's almost if they went out and found people and promoted them for the agenda but it always never seems to work. I remember working with a conductor in Houston, Texas that rallied the guys to participate in continuous improvement, he worked with the dispatchers, to run trains from Beaumont Texas to Houston and was having crews work 2 trains in under 12 hours and crews were paid 2 trip rates. He proposed to use Lloyd Yard as a staging area for trains for outbound and inbound trains, the yard would build them and drag them out and stage them for the outbound crew, the same with inbound trains coming in from Hearne would be staged until another yard could take them and hump them. They ended firing the guy, because crews and the yardmaster assumed he was taking jobs away. The guy later resurfaced after suing Union Pacific and winning. Union Pacific hired him as a conductor, but he was directly reporting back to the executive mgmt on why these trains were not running on time every time and why trains had to be recrewed. The moral of this story is Omaha hires these people as their eyes and ears. Be mindful of your conversations with managers and these yardmasters, and if you pay close attention some of these managers, they are bringing in are from overseas or worked at railroads overseas. I believe Vena will sell the trackage rights from Houston to New Orleans - Avondale going all the way east to the BNSF. Union Pacific does not want to deal with those trains coming from the Avondale area and BNSF does most of the switching out there. If you study the maps, study the short lines out there, the BNSF gets the business and contracts it to the short lines. Union Pacific Trains are always in a siding meanwhile the BNSF is running all around them. Vena came in and gave secrets to Bill Gates and Buffet and the now the time has come where they finally can chop up Union Pacific and you want a bonus. Bill Gates Farmland that he is buying up is not to produce food, it's to build NEW RAIL, NEW RAIL LINES. and it all ties into and connects the BNSF. The little conductor I spoke about had maps, he had information, but perhaps because of the color of his skin, those guys didn't want to hear it but had the listened things would have probably been different and better. I agree with the guy that posted this, it's about to get Rocky beyond measure, start paying of your debts, if you don't own a house go get one because it's going to get bad for Union Pacific and great for all the other railroads.

Ok great thanks guys for the unfounded speculation and kicking a dead horse talking point around.

I think we need to define, what is his job? Is he supposed to run a railroad and have the railroads best long term interest as his primary job? Or was his job to charge a premium price while cutting, slashing, and selling off anything he could as long as the railroad barely, slowly, and dangerously moved freight? Was his job to focus on the railroads long term interest or to focus on the shareholders short term demand for dividends and stock price?