Thread regarding Wind River Systems Inc. layoffs

Kristi: I was asked to read this in Jan but never did. After reading this thread and your comments, I have to say that lots of these posters are right. A few years ago, your supervisor asked me to read a draft of your performance appraisal. I did. It was spot on. There are times when you let personal projects get in the way of your core work responsibilities. Simple as that.

Please don't act like this is the first time you've heard that. A few of us, including you, know better.

I've stayed out of this, and against my better judgement, I'm saying something. Older and younger workers are valued in every workplace. We each have something to contribute to teams and organizations. I understand frustrations in the workplace, and venting is ok. Personally, I'd find a more discreet avenue of doing it, but that's me. I can understand someone thinking they are defending them self or their colleagues, but ignoring any jab will likely get you further in life, and at least in my book, earn you more respect in the long run. I don't, however, get people that don't work here trying to bait someone that took a stand or try to insult him or her, or create a witch hunt type atmosphere to protect one of their friends or acquaintances. This company is going through a transition. Some will remain here, some won't. Heck, for all I know, I could be headed out the door. Feeding into conflict and negativity, especially when you don't work here makes no sense. If that's what any of you are doing, it might be best to find a better way to spend your time.

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Pretty sure she doesn't need protection from anyone. She came on here to defend herself in taking vacation time not even sure why that was even brought up. But what you have done now is stir everyone's curiosity on the 20+ year old new comers at 500 wind river way so have fun with the WR folks looking to find out who was so foolish. I believe there are four buildings on WR campus way to narrow it down to the 500 building. BTW Kristi and I are not friends but I know who she is. You brought up her demeanor it is obvious you don't deal with straight forward no nonsense direct people that how I think of her.

Please read the post again. Thank you.

Proves once again about the 20+ year olds to keep engaging in ridiculous child bantering way to make WR proud.

Sorry to disappoint you but I'm not Kristi I'm pretty sure she said she wouldn't hide behind the anonymous name.

Nice Try

Thank you. I appreciate your perceived protection of your friend, Kristi, but you're talking to a different person here. Nice to know she hangs out with prejudiced friends. I wish you, her and all your tribe well.

Just because your boy toy is gone don't be pissy

Again, thank you. Appreciate your kind, respectful and professional attitude and demeanor.

And during work hours RIGHT

Again, thanks for the professionalism and support.

Workplace not for long from what I hear.

Workplace not for long from what I hear.

Because this is my workplace, my livelihood, my colleagues. Actually, I'll say the same about you - why are you chiming in? Trying to cover for your softball coach or buddy after she put her foot in her mouth? My workplace concerns me. Why does it concern you?

I dont work for WR This is a PUBLIC FORUM i can say whatever i want. If you dont want to read it quit wasting your time reading it during your lunch hour on your phone geez. The last 3 days had nothing to do with you personally from what i can tell so i am not sure why you keep chiming in.

Thank you for your professionalism and respect. Glad to know we have so many capable, mature and intelligent mentors here.

******LOL SHUT UP******

It isn't my place to tell anyone to "shut up." It's my place to do my job and treat my coworkers with respect and professionalism - all of them, including her, which is what I bend over backward to do. Her generalizing about a group of people is simply not right. Just as your lectures on the "entitlement" that younger workers have is inappropriate. Who died and made you God? As far as negativity goes, it sounds like you and her are on the dark side right now. I'm simply asking that everyone be treated with respect and professionalism, rather than lecturing us on the number of RiFs you've survived and telling us that we won't last - wow! Thanks for all the positive vibes.

Well then go find the person in your age range that attacked her first and tell them to shut up. And if it doesn't specifically call you out why are you worried about it? She was specifically called out. If you know you are doing a good job then good for you, none of this pertains to you and you are allowing yourself to get sucked in to the negativity.

She cant be that far of with Thousands of articles written about 20+ year old WORK Ethic

The work ethic is dead. Younger generations in the workforce have killed it off. If you're under 30, "work" has a different meaning than it did -- for the younger employee, work is something to do with your hands while chatting on your cellphone . . . unless it's something to do with your mouth while text messaging.

"Are you working?"

"I'm here, aren't I?"

Here I am, give me a high five and a Starbucks. And it's nobody's fault but ours, the boomers. We're the ones who were squealing with delight if the kid drew an egg. We were the ones who said, "Johnny tried, and that's what counts." And that's why these misguided Johnnies show up and give working a try, then wonder where they find the counter where success is handed out. They see "work ethic" as "show up and shut up," and no wonder they want no part of it.

What's called for is a way of working beyond mere work, something higher, something finer. What's needed is a Contribution Ethic and -- hello! -- it always has been needed. People with a contribution ethic have always been rare, and they have always been who drive the economy and the world conversation.

The Contribution Ethic

1. Just help. Make yourself useful. You aren't just there, waiting. There's no waiting. Just help.

2. A great player is worth less than a great teammate. (aka "The Steve Nash Effect" or "The Yankees' Blunder") A great player might or might not improve the group, but a great teammate always does. (Imagine a sales team of 10, each selling 10 units a month. A star might come in as the 11th employee and sell 50 percent more than everyone else, raising the group to 115. A great teammate, however, might come in and sell 12 units, but also help everyone else sell 12, raising the department's output to 132. Thus, the great teammate seems to produce less but is actually more than twice as valuable.)

3. Your half is 60 percent.

4. Innovation is a subversive activity. You can't expect management and/or co-workers to drool with excitement over your "I have an idea!" After all, most ideas are suggestions and most suggestions are complaints. On the other hand, if an idea is truly original, then expect resistance; indeed, welcome it as a measure of originality. Organizations are built for continuity not creativity. That's why you need to demonstrate how the idea will work, and you might need the guerrilla's wiles. Ideas are nothing next to proposals; proposals are nothing next to experiments.

5. Giving time without attention is a gift-wrapped empty box.

6. Assume the best. If you accept that every 10th person is a jerk and that you're a jerk one-10th of the time, then you can meet the world with the smile of the victor, for the odds are with you.

7. Being right is overrated. If your goal is usefulness, then what matters is progress.

8. Being wrong is underrated. Admitting you were wrong is wisdom gained.

9. Always bring something to read.

10. Think like a hero; work like an artist. If the end is helpfulness, that's the hero mind. If the means is exploration and learning, that's the artist's mind. When kindly attention meets curiosity, you move gracefully through the world.

I am worrying about me and not concerned about her time. That being said, I don't appreciate her attitude toward people in my age range. Simple as that.

You are all being ridiculous. You should all be thankful you have a job, long tenure or not especially during winter and over the holidays!! Stop hating and be thankful for what you have. Why are you worried about what others are doing? Just worry about you. If you want to take every Friday off what's stopping you from asking? Just because some did ask and it was approved don't hate on them. Did you bother to ask? It's also not her responsibility to ensure the department is covered while she is on vacation. You all need to take emotional intelligence training, learning how to deal with all of the various personalities in a work place will be a huge factor in how well you do in the work force. Stop judging people you don't know or by what you hear. All this negativity is bringing you all down and you are only hurting yourselves. Don't let others control your mood!

...and, yes, I'm in my 20s and do my job, without complaining about it, so thanks for generalizing about me, too...and I'm not writing this from work. I'm heading to lunch and wrote this from my iPhone.

I just read this after being told about this "flame war." No. I'm sorry, I don't think you are one of the nicest people I'll ever meet here at 500 Wind River Way. Sorry. Wish you well, don't want to read your facebook page or get to know you, or even see you after work, but no, you aren't the "nice person" you claim to be. Your responses here show that as does your demeanor at work.

Yes that is what is wrong with the 20+ year olds these days. They want to get paid $60K and do nothing. Your degree if you have one got you in the Door now do the work to support that, If you haven’t noticed if you don’t do the work you will be in the next RIF. Like I said before I have been here for 15 years and through 20+ RIF’s or so and I am still here so I must be doing something right. My demeanor if one cannot laugh at a Fart joke you must be a stiff. It is obvious that you see my FB posts because I know I don’t talk about Farts at work. My work life is my work life and my personal life well is mine. You must have seen the post on FB I shared that said I get paid to be nice at work that is a fact. Again my FB page is mine not WR so if offends anyone at work stop looking at my page. If you knew me at all you would know I am one of the nicest people you will meet but if you came at me sideways well then the not so nice side of me will come out. I love my job and love the people I work with and work for. This company has become cut throat sad to say but it has. There is no loyalty here and everyone is waiting for the other shoe to drop. I will be here until the chains are put on the door. I take pride in working for WR.

AND YES I POSTED THIS DURING WORK HOURS!!!

It's called spell check girls...

I'm dying over here is this really going on... I remember the days when the new guys would work just to prove they belong there and the old ones would dump work on them. What has changed in today's society that we can't do what we've earned, maybe if you put in the hours like the older ones did in their time you too can take off 30+ hours to do whatever the he'll it is you want to do. Back then we had the water cooler and the break room to vent now these newer ones want to post it on line smh buck up buttercup because if you think life is unfair now holy shit are you in for a good ride because that's just the tip your feeling let it go put your head down and work quite the crying and the bickering you're not at home and your coworkers aren't your siblings so mommy won't come help you out

I get paid to do a job and I do it well my bad.

Then stop looking at MY FACEBOOK PAGE.IT'S my page not WR

Kristi- I can understand you being upset, but your demeanor, as illustrated by your response here, is probably why someone made a lame effort to call you out. I live and let live, but have to admit, the farting jokes, and the like, are a real big turn off.

@ElI8FOv-BKw

I am the IT person that coaches Softball. I am not hiding behind an Anonymous name because i have the balls to defend myself. You have been at WR for 3 years ( 200 hours of vacation) I have been here for 15 years been through 20+ RIF's and i am sure i will be here longer than you will be. 11+ years gets you 280 hours of vacation time. 280 hours to do what I want i dont need permission from WR to use MY time the way I want. You were so quick to point my hours used but didnt bother to say 40 of those hours will be spent volunteering at an Orphanage in Mexico. My Softball hours are volunteer hours, i dont get paid to coach, i do it because i love to coach. Odd that you say no one is here to help, SOMEONE is always here to help. When you start at WR you get 3 weeks vacation i cant help that you feel as a new comer that you cant take your time off, That is on you and you only. We are encouraged to take a vacation time if you are not then get another job. If you dont like the fact that you actually have to work for the money you make get another job. If you are so unhappy GET ANOTHER FREAKING JOB. To many tools at this company that want to get paid and not do there work.

Kristi

I agree with the FB Comments. The "Dude" posting his navy pics...and the IT Tech listing all 240 hours she is going to take off NEXT year. I don't think any of the younger employees mind the variation in leave, but it'd be nice if people had their work done before leaving instead of dumping it on us.

Absolutely no jealousy old timer. Just frustration when we need to get something done and there's nobody to be found here. Thanks, though. Maybe you should go back to posting TBT photos on FB while the rest of us actually get something done.

Could it be the person in IT that took 30 days off ACTUALLY earned that time? Also the fact is that the company is forcing people to take all their vacation time may be a contributing factor. Sounds like a bit of envy or jealousy is playing in here rather that a valid argument.

I just saw this post. I've been at Wind for about three years or so. It's not in my nature to put anyone down and I put this out there with the greatest amount of respect and good intentions. I've learned lots from some of the older employees here, and I really have appreciated it, but yes, there does seem to be some sense of entitlement from the longer term employees regarding workloads and working hours. We have someone in IT that takes off over 30 days a year to coach softball, and way too many others doing the same thing for various personal reasons. I'm not saying that they aren't good reasons, but I really do feel like myself and some of the newer employees are taken advantage of. I'm sorry if I offend anyone by expressing that, but that is how I feel.

Sorry we upset you, old dude...

So the problem is management and long term employees and not entitled upstarts who spread rumors anonymously. Good to know. Thanks for sharing.