Thread regarding National Oilwell Varco Inc. layoffs

Wow, you are retarded if you think evolution is not real.

Thank god you will be fired tomorrow.

EVOLUTION IS NOT PART OF SCIENCE IT IS A RELIGION YOU BELIEVE IN NOT PART OF SCIENCE.

Science claims that evolution is about "life adapting to its surroundings," Correct? Well plankton defy this by making its surroundings adapt to it.

How? When it gets to hot plakton have the ability to make clouds to give them much needed shade for survival.

Plankton did this by releasing a chemical in the water that makes the surface darker than normal which in turn makes the surface of the water increase in temperature. Making clouds is not adapting to its surroundings. It's making the surroundings adapt to the needs of the life form. Google "plankton make clouds nasa" and research it for yourself. They even have satellites that track this because plankton making clouds can change the weather patterns in a huge area.

The fossil record disproves fantasy statements in the bible.

We know the world is 4.5 billion years ago as our fossil records prove this. The bible says the world is only 6,000 years old.

We know dinosaurs exist as our fossil records prove this. The bible says dinosaurs are not real.

We know humans have invented thousands of religions and thousands of different gods as fossil records prove this.

We know oil was created from plants and animals from 150 million years ago and our fossil records prove this. The bible says oil cannot exist since the world is not old enough.

We know the earth revolves around the sun and reality proves that. The bible does not agree with reality.

Again, none of you people will state which religion is the correct one or what god is the correct one. This is because you people are asshole trolls.

None of you morons will have jobs after tomorrow. I will make sure any morons that think the earth is only 6,000 years old are fired first.

How can you blatantly ignore facts and reality.

Will you religious morons be donating 10% of your severance to your catholic wannabe christian mega churches????

Since when is a fictional book = science?? Never.

You people cant even choose which god is the real god out of the thousands made up by humans. You cant even decide which religion is the real religion out of the thousands.

But you think you know what created everything?? LOL.

Sorry, but people with brains will stick to facts and real observations/data.

Evolution is based on facts. If you want to deny facts then you will know why you are going to lose your job tomorrow.

In your world oil does not exist because the bible says so. So you have no need to work for any oil service companies.

The fossil record is easy to debunk that it supports the theory of evolution, or is a record of time.

This is because the fossil record supports the works wide flood instead. There are 7 proofs of this.

Atheists often get mad when they see a creationist use science to prove their points. They act as if their side has some type of ownership to science that no one else is allowed to use. Yet when asked, they can never produce the ownership papers like copyrights or proof of ownership. Instead they rant and act mad because someone dared to use science to disprove what they claim is true, proven, and a fact.

Science is not mutually exclusive to any one group. Theist laid the foundations of it. And atheists took it over with their believed theory of evolution.

Atheists you need to quit acting like plagiarizing the works of Christians by omitting their names from their works when mentioned. While taking credit for what they did by making us sound too ignorant to even be scientists.

There is no debate between evolution and something called creationism.

Evolution = based on facts

Creationism = made up story just for fun

Stop being a tard.

Anyone against evolution is a hateful fear monger trying to trick people into donating to their mega church so the pastor can get a new lexus.

The evolution/creation debate is an interesting clash of theories and faith-positions, claims and counter-claims, science and pseudo science. One side quotes from the bible, even when it seems that the bible is completely out of harmony with alleged modern science, while the other side quotes from both good science and opinion usually mixing the two without discrimination.

But while all this is going on, something else tends to stand out: ATTITUDES! In the evolution camp there are many who gnash their teeth and unleash a great deal of hate, vitriol, diatribe and innuendo. They can be downright nasty. They do not play by the rules, they spit venom, they even lie and misquote. Their campaign is often based on a sort of religious zeal which goes far beyond reasonable discussion.

The creationist camp is, on the other hand, by and large, free from all this. Christians defend their position with facts, objective reasoning, and gentlemanly fairness. They rarely indulge in lies, hate or innuendo. They tend to stick to the subject and leave personal attacks out if it.

The average feedback from evolutionists has been marked by one significant feature: A COMPLETE LACK OF FACTS!

There has been no end of claims and bold assertions, but not one single fact stands out as useful enough to show how evolution could ever have occurred.

This in itself is remarkable considering how many people confidently believe Darwin was right. If only they had the facts to back it up.

Allah is the true god.

Islam is the true religion.

Every religion crumbles when you look at the evidence and facts. It is sad that morons purposely ignore facts so they can pretend their god is real. Why do they do that to themselves?

If the bible was real then oil would not exist.

If evolution was not real then oil would not exist.

So I guess all the NOV equipment is just for fun since oil does not exist???

I cant wait until all you retards are fired. You are all a waste of money who live in fantasy.

Why would we pay any of you religious tards when you think oil is fake??

Allah is a fictional character

The Quran describes Allah as the best deceiver there is, a liar who is not above using the same evil and wicked schemes of his opponents.

For example, the Quran calls Allah a makr, in fact the best makr there is:

But they (the Jews) were deceptive, and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena)! S. 3:54; cf. 8:30 Other texts that identify Allah as a makr include:

Are they then secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi)? None deemeth himself secure from Allah's deception (makra Allahi) save folk that perish. S. 7:99

So they schemed a scheme: and We schemed a scheme (Wamakaroo makran wamakarna makran), while they perceived not. S. 27:50

The word for deception/deceiver/scheme is makr. The lexical sources define the term as:

Miim-Kaf-Ra = To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or elusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem And:

He practised DECEIT, GUILE, or CIRCUMVENTION, desiring to do another a foul, an abominable, or an evil action, clandestinely or without his knowing whence it proceeded. (Lane’s Arabic-English Lexicon; source)

Lest Muslims accuse these lexicons of bias or distortion notice what Muslim scholar Dr. Mahmoud M. Ayoub says when he asks,

"how the word makr (scheming or plotting), which implies deceitfulness or dishonesty, could be attributed to God." (The Quran and Its Interpreters – The House of Imran [State University of New York Press [SUNY], Albany 1992], Volume II, p. 165; italic emphasis ours)

After listing several Muslim sources he quotes a renowned Muslim expositor named ar-Razi who wrote that,

"scheming (makr) is actually an act of deception aiming at causing evil. It is not possible to attribute deception to God. Thus the word is one of the muttashabihat [multivalent words of the Quran]." (Ibid., p. 166; italic emphasis ours)

Unfortunately for ar-Razi, the Quran attributes deception to Allah since it identifies him as the best makr there is.

Ayoub also sources one Muslim who actually boasted of Allah being the best conniver/deceiver/schemer etc.,

"Qurtubi observes that some scholars have considered the words ‘best of schemers’ to be one of God’s beautiful names. Thus one would pray, ‘O Best of Schemers, scheme for me!’ Qurtubi also reports that the Prophet used to pray, ‘O God, scheme for me, and do not scheme against me!’ (Qurtubi, IV, pp. 98-99; cf. Zamakhshari, I, p. 366)." (Ibid., p. 166)

And here, also, is how one of the earliest sources on the life of Muhammad interpreted Q. 8:30:

Then he reminds the apostle of His favour towards him when the people plotted against him 'to kill him, or to wound him, or to drive him out; and they plotted and God plotted, and is the best of plotters.' i.e. I DECEIVED them with My firm GUILE so that I delivered you from them. (The Life of Muhammad: A Translation of Ibn Ishaq's Sirat Rasul Allah, with introduction and notes by Alfred Guillaume [Oxford University Press, Karachi, Tenth impression 1995], p. 323; capital emphasis ours)

Thus, the Quran unashamedly calls Muhammad’s god the best liar and deceiver of them all! It even dares to say that ALL deception belongs completely to Allah:

And verily, those before them did deceive/scheme (makara), but all deception/scheming is Allah's (falillahi al-makru). He knows what every person earns, and the disbelievers will know who gets the good end. S. 13:42

In fact, the Quran states that Allah actually raises wicked individuals to deceive and scheme:

Even so have we placed in every city, ringleaders of its wicked ones, to scheme therein (liyamkuroo): but only against themselves shall they scheme (yamkuroona)! and they know it not. S. 6:123 Rodwell

And further commands people to do evil so that he can then have a reason to destroy them!

And when We would destroy a township We send commandment to its folk who live at ease, AND AFTERWARD they commit abomination therein, and so the Word (of doom) hath effect for it, and we annihilate it with complete annihilation. S. 17:16 Pickthall

The Quran uses another word to denote that Allah is a liar, a schemer who has no problems using guile, namely kayd:

And those who cry lies to Our signs We will draw them on little by little whence they know not; and I respite them -- assuredly My guile (kaydee) is sure. S. 7:182-183 Arberry

and I shall respite them -- assuredly My guile (kaydee) is sure. S. 68:45 Arberry

The lexicons provide the following definitions:

Kaf-Ya-Dal (Kaf-Alif-Dal) = To be about to, be just on the point of, be well nigh, intend, wish, practise an artful device, desire, contrive/plot/devise such a thing, worked or laboured at or upon anything, to do something clandestinely, to deceive/beguile/circumvent, means of evading/eluding, vomited, emitted fire, had menstrual flux, gave up his spirit.

kada vb. (1)

perf. act. 12:76

impf. act. 12:5, 21:57, 86:15, 86:16

impv. 7:195, 11:55, 77:39

n.vb. 3:120, 4:76, 7:183, 8:18, 12:5, 12:28, 12:28, 12:33, 12:34, 12:50, 12:52, 20:60, 20:64, 20:69, 21:70, 22:15, 37:98, 40:25, 40:37, 52:42, 52:46, 68:45, 77:39, 86:15, 86:16, 105:2

pcple. pass. 52:42

LL, V7, p: 166, 167 (Source; underline emphasis ours)

The Quran furnishes plenty of examples that exemplify the negative aspect and nature of this term, e.g. those who use kayd are deliberately intending something evil which results in their judgement for employing such wicked schemes:

What, have they feet wherewith they walk, or have they hands wherewith they lay hold, or have they eyes wherewith they see, or have they ears wherewith they give ear? Say: 'Call you then to your associates; then try your guile (keedooni) on me, and give me no respite. S. 7:195 Arberry

He [Jacob] said, 'O my son [Joseph], relate not thy vision to thy brothers, lest they devise against thee some guile (fa yakeedoo laka kayda). Surely Satan is to man a manifest enemy. S. 12:5 Arberry

So when he [Potiphar] saw his [Joseph] shirt torn from behind, he said: Lo! this is of the guile of you (kaydikunna) women. Lo! the guile of you (kaydakunna) is very great. S. 12:28 Pickthall

So gather your guile (kaydakum); then come in battle-line. Whoever today gains the upper hand shall surely prosper. S. 20:64 Arberry

the day when their guile (kayduhum) shall avail them naught, and they shall not be helped. S. 52:46 Arberry

if you have a trick, try you now to trick Me (kaydun fa keedooni)!' S. 77:39 Arberry

Allah is even portrayed as stooping down to the level of the deceivers and liars by acting like them in his use of guile:

They are devising guile (ya keedoona kaydan), and I am devising guile (Wa akeedu kaydan). S. 86:15-16 There is more to the story. The Quran uses yet another word in describing the deception of Allah, that word being khida/khuda/khada:

Verily, the hypocrites seek to deceive Allah, but it is He Who deceives them (Inna al-munafiqeena yukhadiaaoona Allaha wahuwa khadiaauhum). And when they stand up for As-Salat (the prayer), they stand with laziness and to be seen of men, and they do not remember Allah but little. S. 4:142 Hilali-Khan

Here, once again, is the lexical meaning of this specific word:

Kh-Dal-Ayn = To hide/conceal, double or fold, deceive or outwit, pretend, to enter, vary in state/condition, refrain or refuse, relinquish, to be in little demand of, deviate from the right course, resist/unyield/incompliant, turn away and behave proudly.

khada'a vb. (1)

impf. act. 2:9, 8:62

pcple. act. 4:142

khada'a vb. (3) impf. act. 2:9, 4:142

LL, V2, p: 344, 345, 346, 347 (Source)

Lest there be any confusion concerning the fact that this word means that Allah is a deceiver notice how this term is used in the following references:

They (think to) deceive Allah (Yukhadiaaoona) and those who believe, while they only deceive (yakhdaaoona) themselves, and perceive (it) not! S. 2:9 Hilali-Khan

And if they would deceive thee (yakhdaaooka), then lo! Allah is Sufficient for thee. He it is Who supporteth thee with His help and with the believers, S. 8:6 Pickthall

Is there any doubt that the unbelievers were using deception as they tried to deceive Muhammad and his companions? Just as there is no doubt that Allah also uses deception in deceiving them!

God calls evolutions list fools in Romans 1:22 "professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.

The evolution establishment fears creation science, because evolution itself crumbles when challenged by evidence. In the 1970 and 1980's hundreds of public debates were arranged between evolutionary scientists and creation scientists. The latter scored resounding victories, with the result that, today, few evolutionists will debate. Isaac Asimov, Stephen jay Gould, and the late Carl Sagan, while highly critical of creationism, all declined to debate.

Allah loves you all.

If you believed in Allah you would still have a job.

Sorry that the Priest got a hold of you. And now you hate anything to do with religion. But don't stress. God does love you too.

There has never been and never will be proof of a god.

All the facts we have discovered about the unverse already contradict everything in the catholic bible, the jewish bible, and the muslim quran. But those are only a few of the religions we invented.

(also they contradict everything in the catholic wanna be christian mega church bible)

Again, if you think you have proof then answer these simple questions.

What god of the thousands we invented is the real god??

What religions of the thousands we invented is the real religion??

Answering with a bible verse means you are retarded.

if you cant answer than shut up.

Thank you.

What a thread!!! Yea. The Alpha and Omega. Even Russia tried to disprove God by mathematical formulas and actually proved there is a supreme being. Google it. Believe not just today or tomorrow but for all time. God Bless Ya'll.

If the theory of evolution were true:

if there are millions on monkeys and billions of humans then where are the millions of the species in between?

Harry Potter killed Voldemort. There are seven books which explain his struggles and eventual vanquishing of The Dark Lord.

I know it is true because I purchased the box set of the books on Amazon.

Tell me what makes the Bible more credible than Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows? Because it is older and has been translated, reinterpreted, and carefully edited by kings dozens of times throughout history?

God created everything. And gives a very good explanation in the first verse of the bible. In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Time, space, matter all created together because the three cant exist without each other. All three must be created at the same time.

Why are you so closed minded that you ignore reality and instead fantasize about how an imaginary made up god magically created everything?

Also, what god is the right god because humans have invented thousands of different gods and religions.

Please tell me what god is correct and what religion is correct. If you wont then shut up.

Energy moves and interacts. It not something that some god controls or creates. It is random and takes many years and iterations to develop into patterns. We humans have already been able to measure so much of how the universe works, but we dont have the technology to measure everything yet. If you believe in god then electricity would not exist. Oil would not exist. Please dont be so tarded by believing in made up gods.

The whole idea that your brain cannot fathom that energy is never created or destroyed is just silly.

If you dont believe in oil and instead you believe in gods then why do you work for an oil equipment company?? Oh wait....after tomorrow you wont.

Sometimes, there's simply no helping people who refuse to learn.

I hope you evolution-deniers remember to tithe 10% of your severance checks like The Good Lord wants.

evo-nuts believe miraculous single celled organisms from the ancient past magically morphed into plants, insects, dinosaurs, aquatic animals, and land mammals over time yet have the hypocritical nerve to say Christians believe in fairy tales? Lol

Why the theory of evolution fails: evolution is a second cause theory which is missing its first cause. A theory missing its first cause is a broken theory.

What is evolutions first cause? In order to have a Godless evolution of life, you first have to have a Godless creating of life. Creating life from non-living matter would be from page news worthy of the noble prize that no one has. Also making a second cause idea work without its first cause not only goes against the scientific method but also makes evolution a fallacy type idea.

Also, I love the irony.

These morons believe in a magical god and that the world is only 6,000 years old. But yet they work for a company that make equipment to drill for oil made out of plant and animal remains from 150 million years ago.

How stupid can these people be??

Their own religion says oil DOES NOT exist. That is why they will lose their jobs. Oil goes against their religion.

According to these wackos, if you claim you are the one true god then you are the one true god.

These people dont even know what a microscope is. That is why they will be laid off. No one wants to work with morons.

@FrcbjVo-1tir

No wonder you're going to get laid off. You listen to your pastor instead of 99%+ of the world's scientists.

FrcbjVo-1mgm. What's there to understand? Evolution is a lie. Lol

"Declare what is to be, present it-- let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me."

If I write a book that declares myself (or one of my buddies) to be the One True God™, does that immediately become sufficient proof that I am the Lord?

@FrcbjVo-1ckg

Why did you not answer???

Correct religion = __

Correct god = ____

Are you not capable of answering??

By quoting Isaiah you could be saying the Muslim god is correct or maybe the Jewish god. Which god do you think is the real one??

Another non answer like quoting Isaiah will mean you are just a troll and have no idea what you are talking about.

Thank you.

Atheism: the belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason, creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason whatsoever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs. Yea makes perfect sense. NOT!

"Why are there still monkeys/apes?"

Because you don't understand evolution.

Question by @FrcbjVo-1cqq

"If you are going to respond, please tell me what god is the real god and what religion is the right religion. I would love to know."

Answer:

Isaiah 45:21

Declare what is to be, present it-- let them take counsel together. Who foretold this long ago, who declared it from the distant past? Was it not I, the LORD? And there is no God apart from me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none but me.

More lies. If a single living cell was found on a distant planet, scientists would exclaim that we have found life elsewhere in the universe. So why is a single living cell found in the womb of a pregnant woman not considered life? To set the record straight we neither came from a rock nor did we evolve from a monkey or ape. If you believe your grandpa came from a rock then keep on trucking. People like you also believe we evolved from a monkey/ape yet you atheist still have yet to prove why the monkey/apes got left behind. Why are there still monkeys/apes? Grow up.

I really like this:

Life is a journey filled with lessons, hardships, heartaches, joys, celebrations and special moments that will ultimately lead us to our destination, our purpose in life.

Funny, because you are the one's trolling with your god nonsense.

You people are jerks to be posting lies about some magical imaginary god. I bet you all believe in santa clause.

If you are going to respond, please tell me what god is the real god and what religion is the right religion. I would love to know.

Thank you.

When you reply trolls, you empower them to drive this post to the wrong direction. The Internet is their play ground!

Well energy is neither created or destroyed.

It moves and changes.

We are a product of interaction of energy for the last 14 billion years that we can measure. Existence before that is not something we have found out how to measure yet.

Do you think some guy with magical power created us? Really??

If you went by religious teachings then the world would only be 6,000 years old, it would be flat, the sun would revolve around the earth, and space would not really exist. Neither would other planets.

We would also have been magically created in a way to trick people into thinking we evolved. Like god would have purposely left clues in our bodies to trick people into thinking that evolution was real.

Seriously, you are a tard if you believe in god. Grow up.

@FrcbjVo-1ynp Lies. Ok I'll bite. If you don't believe in God then how did you get here? By osmosis? I'll throw you a better one, how did we all get here?

When we think about it, even if we get laid off tomorrow or next week or whenever, we need to remember to be thankful to Him. After all, we still have our health, our families, and so much more. He will help us find a way to get through this.

Think of it this way: God allows about 21,000 people (mostly babies and small children) to die from malnutrition every single day of every single year. If He's kind enough to let us survive -- even if it's without our mediocre-paying jobs -- we should still praise Him.

God = hate

Every catholic dropout christian mega church is a scam.

You people bought the fake dr pastor a lexus and they will leave you out to dry when you are broke.

Religion and gods are scams.