Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

40 percent of Honeywell employees HATE thier job

Way too many people at Honeywell hate their jobs. Exactly how many is hard to say, but depending on which study you believe, somewhere between 20 percent and 40 percent of employees are miserable at Honeywell.

And to a lot of people this is just the way things are. A Honeywell lifer told me “Of course I hate my job — that’s why they pay me to do it.” Many people still have the attitude that if you’re enjoying work, you’re not working hard enough, and that the only path to career success is to work long hours and sacrifice everything else in your life for a job that makes you miserable.

Well, it turns out that not only is Honeywell completely wrong (studies show that people who like their jobs are actually more productive and successful at work) but it’s also dangerous, because it can make you sick.

Here are five ways working at Honeywell can harm your health.

1: Hating your job can make you gain weight.

If you dislike your job and see the pounds piling on, the two could well be related. Studies have shown that an unhappy work life robs you of the energy you need to exercise and make good dietary choices. Or to put it another way: After a long frustrating day at work, you are more likely to go for a tub of ice cream and less likely to go for a run.

2: Hating your job can lower your immune system.

It’s commonly thought that workplace stress comes from being too busy at work or working too many hours, but stress researchers are starting to rethink that assumption. They now say instead that workplace stress comes from being in a near-constant state of negative affect, i.e., feeling bad most of the time at the office.

If you work really hard, but feel appreciated at work and see your efforts paying off, you’re not as likely to become stressed. On the other hand, if you’re being treated badly, or if nothing you do at work is ever recognized and you spend your work days in a more or less permanent state of frustration, worry and depression, you can become stressed even if you only work 30 hours a week. And studies have shown that workplace stress harms the immune system and increases the risk of depression.

3: Hating your job can ruin your relationship.

One of the worst things about hating your job, is that it doesn’t stop at the end of the work day. For many people it spills over and affects their whole life.

One study showed that people who are unhappy at work have less satisfying s-x lives and more problems in their relationships and researchers have found a clear link between a good relationship with your spouse and overall health. For instance, men who have a good relationship with their significant other live six years longer on average. Women only get two and half years out of the deal, probably because they live longer than men in general.

4: Hating your job can rob you of sleep.

It’s common knowledge that consistently sleeping a full night does wonders for the human body. The restorative work done while bodies are at rest cannot be underestimated. People who are miserable at work often find it harder to fall asleep or they don’t sleep as well. You’ve probably been there: laying awake, staring at the ceiling of the ticking clock on the nightstand as visions of your to-do list or frustrating co-worker dance through your head. This is bad for your health because sleep restores the body and strengthens the immune system.

5: Hating your job increases your risk of serious illness.

And finally, hating your job directly increases your risk of contracting some dangerous diseases. One study of more than 20,000 U.S. nurses found that the nurses who were unhappy at work had a higher risk of getting sick, and we’re talking serious diseases like some forms of cancer, heart disease and Type 2 diabetes.

If you hate your job, you have to act

All of this means, that if you hate your job, you have to act on it. You have to either figure out how to improve your current work situation or you have to find another job where you can be happy. The only option you don’t have is to do nothing, because staying in that job you hate can make you sick. It can ultimately kill you.

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Post ID: @OP+Lc1delO

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I personally don’t hate my job - I love what I do. It’s the upper management at Honeywell Olathe that needs revamped. SK is the biggest joke of a site leader I’ve ever laid my eyes on. HOW many amazing supervisors and managers do we have to lose because this di-----d can get off his high horse and stop being a complete tool?? Narcissistic jerk!!

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Post ID: @u8zcs+Lc1delO

This really hits home for me. The overwork, lack of sleep, and weight gain ramped up quickly and within a year I realized that I had to get out in order to live a normal life again. Leaving was one of the best things I ever did for my health and happiness.

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Post ID: @u7bgt+Lc1delO

Your data is wrong. You forgot to add me to your data. Which would make it 41% who hate their job.

However, I'm doing something about it. I got my resume updated. Looking for a new job. So then your data will be right again because I will be leaving.

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Post ID: @u7gwt+Lc1delO

It is true, and is getting worse everyday. I used to love my job. I joined Honeywell more than 20 years ago. To me things collapsed when tge current CEO took over. Now it is all about micromanagement, shortsighted cost cutting, centralized decision making process taken without gaining any knowledge of the issue they want to address, harmful strategy, no culture and toxic environment. What a pity.

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Post ID: @mHhuc+Lc1delO

Personally, I don't hate my job. I am thankful that I have a decent income. The people I work with, top notch. The products, very cool. It puzzles me why executive leadership takes a hostile stance to those that make it happen. Screwed out of cost of living "merit" increases, asinine WFH policies, expensive medical, etc. Not the job I hate, it's the way we are treated. HON, does not give a shlit about you.

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Post ID: @iVbjm+Lc1delO

The biggest problem with the chickasaw al, plant is they are money hungry care more about money than peoples well being. We have 180 operators and I know 40 or 50 of them are looking for new jobs. They rolled out this block system and leveling and told us we was all getting raises this year and BOOM how convenient for them to take that away from us now. And the little HR girl told us straight up that she wasn’t here for us she’s for the company. It’s pathetic around here. It don’t matter what we do it’s never enough they always want more with less pay. They never fix things 100% just put a band aid on it to make it run. This place is super greedy don’t care about their employees but the truth is we are the ones making it happen around here. And by the way maybe through all this they can see we don’t need all these offices filled up with engineers and T.A’s we run this place not them they are just dead weight on the payroll.

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Post ID: @iVkii+Lc1delO

Come on Honeywell so good at the lies surely you can make us believe you care.... lol

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Post ID: @iUsva+Lc1delO

Its not the job thats bad at chickasaw al plant its the very bad decisions and the lies that are told by management and the 12yr old HR person... If you don't care about us and our families come out and tell us instead of the lies or acting like it matters. That would probably be better.. WHAT A JOKE!!!

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Post ID: @iUmmw+Lc1delO

I agree the chickasaw al plant is a joke with the covid 19 virus they're wanting us to clock in earlier and leave later so basically you have twice as many people on site at once.. Way to go Honeywell management caring about your people and family getting sick.. they're answer for everything work them more...

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Post ID: @iUuej+Lc1delO

I love the work life balance... Yeah WHAT A JOKE!!! THE ONLY WAY TO GET YOUR OFF DAYS IS USE YOUR VACATION DAYS... THEY MIGHT AS WELL BUILD APARTMENTS IN THE PARKING LOT AREA..

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Post ID: @iUidy+Lc1delO

It’s more like 80% at the chickasaw al, plant this place is awful. They always screw the operator out of money and benefits. Put more work in us everyday with all this stupid global eagle and C.I c-ap. If the smallest thing happens their answer is take something from us. Catching the first thing out of here as soon as I can. THIS PLACE IS A JOKE .

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Post ID: @iUeaa+Lc1delO

I think a poll should be taking at the Honeywell uop chickasaw al plant. Pretty much everyone here hates there job because of constantly being lied to by the company. Something every day.

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Post ID: @iTkbn+Lc1delO

i still work for Honeywell

the best thing about it is the time flexibility

but insurance s---s and one of the main bosses came to the building and refused to come down and meet us just stayed upstairs

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Post ID: @7Vzqp+Lc1delO

@4ygs

Newbie detected. Post your politics somewhere else. This board is for Honeywell employees to discuss Honeywell related topics.

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Post ID: @4pmd+Lc1delO

Drank some Kool-Aid lately? Blame the Democrats, the Media, the haters, the Mexicans, Alex Baldwin. Please get the DT fact checker app... LoL You are an idiot

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Post ID: @4ygs+Lc1delO

@1jcr

There is ONE guy/gal/trans on this thread that keeps trying to throw cold water on the facts, and like the democrats, only wants to attackbthe messengers and ignore the real issue.

Right? I'm trying to point out how the 40% number is fake and here comes Road Rage asking me personal questions and attacking me for what he thinks is my age! Thanks for pointing this out

If this one being is not a company (HR) troll trying to divine who leaked the...

I wouldn't go that far. Seems a little tin-foil-hattish.

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Post ID: @4kzq+Lc1delO

Ok a study concludes that Honeywell has low "empathy". How do they calculate that?

Our publicly available metrics including CEO approval ratings from staff, ...

Ratings taken from glass door. Keep that in mind.

...ratio of women on boards, ...

Huh? That translates to employee satisfaction how?

...and number of accounting infractions and scandals...

Ok I guess this COULD affect job satisfaction if you employ the right mental gymnastics.

...This year we added a carbon metric...

Seriously?

... The financial information came from S&P Capital IQ, and the employee information from Glassdoor.

I've actually seen a thread on this board where disgruntled employees coordinated to raid Glassdoor with bad reviews. So dont buy it.

Here's an actual study of workplace happiness that has Honeywell in the top 50. The sample size isn't given, but the fact that they advertise the top 50 points to the sample being much greater than that.

Granted, we're no Google but I think this puts to bed the 40% lie.

http://www.businessnewsdaily.com/7564-happiest-companies.html

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Post ID: @4htb+Lc1delO

I don't know if 40% is right or not but this company is now the worst place I've worked at, it has become impossible to complete any task, and I and many others definitely hate it.

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Post ID: @2vsj+Lc1delO

Torrance: No RIF's only VRIF's, retirees, and some just moved on (12 total) yesterday. Just look at how many managers are leaving. All these guys used to love their job. No new business Dairy-A$$ and T. Phony Baloney. Almost all the NPI buyers are now gone.. LoL you idiots put so much compliance process in place so you can have some idiot do your smoke and mirrors metrics, we can't get anything done. When we don't deliver 777x on time don't blame the project leaders.... blame yourselves.. LMAO

I don't know one person in ISC that loves coming to work anymore. Don't worry, In about 5 years all your millennials will save you.

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Post ID: @2fep+Lc1delO

1pwf: Excellent research and post. We'll see if the HON toady goes silent now. Nah. "Better to remain silent and be thought the fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt." Applies equally to trolls.

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Post ID: @2coc+Lc1delO

There is ONE guy/gal/trans on this thread that keeps trying to throw cold water on the facts, and like the democrats, only wants to attackbthe messengers and ignore the real issue. If this one being is not a company (HR) troll trying to divine who leaked the HR report, then they are most likely one that thrives on chaos and grief and finds Honeywell a great place to vacillate.

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Post ID: @1jcr+Lc1delO

Here ya go. For the guy who thinks working for HON is the bomb. Here's some data to show why so many of us hate it. This would indicate 40% is indeed quite low and it's likely much higher.

http://trueviralnews.com/the-most-and-least-empathetic-companies-2016/

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Post ID: @1pwf+Lc1delO

I'm an employee.

The phrase "inside baseball" is a term used mainly in the United States. It usually refers to a detail-oriented approach to the minutiae of a subject, which in turn requires such a specific knowledge about what is being discussed that the nuances are not understood or appreciated by outsiders.

Still feel smart?

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Post ID: @1vwp+Lc1delO

1cbb: if you think '9 block' has something to do with baseball, then you've never worked for HON. Admit it, you are an investor. Go troll somewhere else.

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Post ID: @1eyh+Lc1delO

4 years out of school

Based on what? Do older people accept wild anonymous claims without asking for evidence?

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Post ID: @1cbb+Lc1delO

1auk: Hey HON toady, afraid to answer the questions? I'm pegging you at no more than 4 years out of school. Still wet behind the ears.

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Post ID: @1ijh+Lc1delO

@1zkv

Pump the brakes, road rage.

The 9-block inside baseball and personal questions are great but I miss how they're relevant to this thread and I certainly don't see how they support the OP's bold 40% claim. Hes the one who said there are studies to back it up. Calling his bluff isn't too unreasonable since he seems unable to produce or even elaborate on the results.

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Post ID: @1auk+Lc1delO

All I have to say it is not just at aero. Hon came in 10 years ago at uop and sure making a 100 year old company morale go down hill.

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Post ID: @1zpy+Lc1delO

You pretty much touch all the bases. One I could add is having to dial back a tendency towards road rage. To the HON apologist who keeps demanding hard data and documentation, I'll ask a few questions: 1. is there something about the 9 block / stacked ranking employee evaluation system that BTW demands that 8 to 10% of employees be ranked as under-performers ... that you don't see as abusive and morale crushing? 2. Do you not see that said employee evaluation system is manipulated, with phony criticisms, in order to justify poor rankings/evaluations? 3. Do you not see that a preponderance of people thrown 'in the elbow' are older employees? (you know, the ones making higher salaries and with higher medical expenses). 4. How old are you? Over 35? 5. Are you a manager or wanna-be? Play politics pretty well, while the rest of us are busy trying to get things done? Have a nice day and a nice career but do try to be more observant.

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Post ID: @1zkv+Lc1delO

Really? 40%? I'd say it's more like your expected yield number of 105% Goal achieved a 5ver in the 9-block!

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Post ID: @1zsh+Lc1delO

To 1gmi- I agree with your managers assessment. But, why should Honeywell care if they don't care who comes or goes? My first year manager couldn't run a Taco Bell but she was interim until she got the job. The previous manager quit and gave two week notice. The current manager falls back on how great she was in all her past careers at Honeywell and she knows best and wants to fix all your issues even when not asked to do so. It's so bad it's right down to emails and who you copy and who you don't.

No worries, we need to move on even if we think we're leaving one hell hole for another one

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Post ID: @1rdy+Lc1delO

Sometimes hating your job can make you lose weight. I had a manager who made my life so miserable at Honeywell that I lost 30 lbs in 2 months and I was seeing the Dr every couple of weeks. It was obvious he was trying to make me quit, and when I didn't he put me on a PIP. Fortunately he left for another co. but this guy couldn't run a Burger King. Worst Mgr I've had in 30 years and 8-9 companies. I went to HR and told them about the situation but all they did was offer FLMA. They were totally worthless and just back up management. What the ALT encourages Management to do at Honeywell is just criminal. I have lost

all respect for them and don't trust anything they say.

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Post ID: @1gmi+Lc1delO

you don't need a study. Just ask people

This is probably the approach that led to the inflated 20%-40% numbers. If you only ask people you come into contact with in your local hell hole then you don't get an accurate cross section of the company as a whole.

(Not to mention my site isn't that bad and it would most likely be lower than 20% but that's beside the point.)

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Post ID: @1yef+Lc1delO

You don't need a study, ask anyone. Just, ask, them. And eventually everyone opens up and says how miserable they are, how disempowered the managers feel. Everyone mentions the hours, stress, effect on health and family.

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Post ID: @1nkn+Lc1delO

company troll

That's funny. Any reasonable person reading this will see that it's far more likely the "studies " are non-existent.

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Post ID: @ngg+Lc1delO

The guy asking for specifics sounds like a company troll looking to find out who released the data.

Maybe giving the study will point to a specifics few who have the data

Don't fall for this HR trolling trap. Honeywell always looking to make examples out of ppl for sharing details (largest group of lawyers by any company)

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Post ID: @xkl+Lc1delO

I saw a report from HR the other day that showed worse results across all AERO sites.

Maybe HBT is happy, sounds like they are the only group

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Post ID: @goc+Lc1delO

You're kind of going off topic. So it sounds like you concede that those percentages might be high when talking about Honeywell as a whole. Which, again, is why I'm interested in those studies that I doubt exist.

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Post ID: @boo+Lc1delO

Aero much higher. Other sectors? Who knows.

If bad things are only happening in Aero, other sectors take note, you could be be next and do you really want to be a part of a company that treats employees the way they have treated the bread and butter of Hon for the past 40 years??

Leave now before it's your turn

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Post ID: @ohx+Lc1delO

Were talking about people who hate their jobs. Strong wording. There's no doubt in my mind that's how you feel. But let me guess- you work at one of those crappy AERO sites. Although aero was hit hardest by the cuts, there are still three other SBUs.

And it's even possible to hate the cuts but still love your day-to-day job, believe it or not.

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