Not sure if everyone knows but HCCP and SH are mering in July. Well due to graduating member and cutting back on enrollment there are not enough SH members and so two teams are being moved and given new rosters pre-merge pf the programs.
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I am SH and our team was not provided details about hccp membership resuming when we merge (no timeline provided). I guess everyone's info depends on what their coach knows and can share.
Some SH teams are joinh Hccp in june. They were told enrillment for hccp will resume
I highly encourage anyone worried about the lack of transparency - to start looking for other work now. It didn't get better after the first lay off or the second. Why would it he better now? Don't wait for honesty bc a publicly traded company is most loyal to their shareholders.. not their employees. It can take months to find a new job, and it feels pretty empowering to apply and interview for work where you are valued while dealing with the chaos at Humana - Take back the power. You own your future, not them. I truly hope everyone finds something better.
If HAH/WAH is eliminate we're all gone, unless you live within driving distance to a call center. I don't think it would be anyone choice.
HCM RN here. If we lose WAH I'm gone. That is the only advantage to this job. I think that when we here the changes to MOC less staff will be needed and more layoffs will follow.
I'm honestly so tired of wondering that I just want to know if/when I should start looking for another job. I like to be proactive when it comes to things like paying my bills and feeding my kids. So far all of the 'rumors' have been true. Regarding the restructuring and it not making sense to restructure only to fold in 6 months...the only restructuring I have seen is associate cuts and merging programs. Graduating members and realigning teams due to the cuts. These are not necessarily positive things that are going to save us...and if this new and improved 2.0 MOC is going to keep us afloat, why is it such a secret? I'm not certain we are the ones that need to take a breath and think through what is happening. No intent to scare anyone, just trying to prepare one way or another and its obvious "leadership" is not going to give us any direction on this. Someone cited the failed merger as the reason for moving to a calendar year benefit plan, Aetna was also planning to move the WAH force back to the office in 2017-perhaps this has also trickled over. Hopefully someone will give us some information soon.
My coach told us to update resumes and keep an eye out for other opportunities. Should I tell her to "take a deep breath and relax?"
I'm guessing she didn't get the memo on the future of the program.
80 percent of FCM are contract employees
Usually when teams are getting different information layoffs follow. At least that has been the pattern for this year.
Sounds like TS is back and posting again.
I'm rolling with the last poster for the reason being in most instances when restructuring happens after an initial model failure. The restructuring is done to prevent further failure which happened with our program. Humana pulled out in some states hoping to push the merger through as well no longer participating in the Aca health exchange. Therefore numbers were effected and layoffs were necessary. I personally believe PHC role will become obsolete at some point. I just hope and pray I can ride the wave until I find another job or role within Humana. I like the company but I do not like being a PHC.
Right. When you're getting three different answers from three different "leaders," it becomes difficult to "Take a deep breath and relax!" Especially in this environment of continued job insecurity.
LOL to the poster talking about enrolling this summer! As someone who was told they can't get a roster because we've reached our enrollment goal and our COM told us that its impossible to tell us what the PHC role could look like the remainder of the year or next. I wish you were correct. It would help me sleep better!
"We will begin enrolling again later this summer."
Terrific. But why are different teams getting different info from their coaches? Not blaming the coaches at all as it is obvious they are not all getting the same info, but why the communication fail?
Some are told no more enrollments in 2017, some know nothing, you are saying enrollments will begin again this summer. You can lecture others for speculation, and you may have a point - especially related to it not making sense to restructure only to completely fold - however there is going to be speculation when communication is so awful across the board.
Humana at Home is NOT folding. Our benefit year has zero to do with any of this since its company wide and not just the HAH organization. We will begin enrolling again later this summer.
Think things through folks. What would be the point of restructuring and a new MOC for only 6 months? Restructuring costs the company a lot of money. You are all so worked up over contracted emp!oyees. You do realize it is one of the best ways to "try it before you buy it"? Their contracts are easily bought out.
The failed ACA took a huge financial toll on all health insurance companies. We took a bath with the exchanges and had to dump them, causing a substantial loss of members/enrollments. Take a deep breath and relax! Stop making up scenarios that I can tell you are not in the works! Being a bunch of Chicken Littles is helping no one. Speculation will get you no where and is usually not close to the facts. Let's help each other out not put everyone into a panic over fake news.
Yes I agree. If Humana is not enrolling members with the licensed MSW or RN they are closing the HAH program some time in the future. May want to get all contract workers to do all telephonic and FCM positions . Something is happening. Have not heard what reembersment is set for next year but is has been agreed upon this month
I'm a phc and currently have 700 on my roster. I really feel as though we are being kept in the dark about the changes that are headed our way. I believe there may be more layoffs within the next 6 months. I don't believe they are done with us yet.
I know this is a leap, but what are the chances HAH is folding altogether? Changed benefit plans (associates moving to a calendar year), closed enrollment for Stay Healthy and HCCP, merging programs, mass layoffs x2 (not counting the office staff round in March).... is it possible the entire HAH program will be no more? Is anyone familiar with the reimbursement for telehealth with all the government changes? Maybe we are no longer in Humana's best interest?
Looks like there is another round coming for the PHC's. Any program not enrolling now is at risk. There are 10,000 people per day turning 65 and are eligible for Medicare. I know they all won't decide to have Humana as their secondary insurance,but some will ,and the programs can get some new members throughout the year that way. Strange they would close enrollment in programs they make money off of.
Im a PHC who is on the auto dialer and without a roster, we were originally told that we would b getting rosters back in june and now told that we will be on the auto dialer enrolling for SNP for at least the next six months because HCCP has already completed enrollment for PHCs for 2017 and there just simply arent enough members. PHCs with rosters --are you at 700?
Thats a really great question regarding attrition, one that my coach was asked but cant answer. I know a team of PHCs lost their rosters and are doing enrollment for nurses but Im not sure if its HCCP or SNP.
Are they still enrolling for HCCP for MSW and RN's ?
Thanks. Sorry if I sound clueless here, but it's only May, so if there are no more enrollments in 2017 for SH and HCCP, won't attrition kill the programs? As members fall off due to utc, declinations, death, termed plans, hospice, etc...., how will the programs (or program, singular, once they merge) continue?
Even if they made their goal why wouldn't they keep on enrolling members? Don't they get paid more the more members they manage?
HCCP has already met their enrollment goal for both stay healthy and at risk PHCs. They will not be enrolling any members for the remainder of 2017.
Has anyone received information about when hccp will start enrolling members again?
What's happening in HCCP is what happened in SNP several months ago. They laid off all the non MSW and RN and gave the MSW the HCC jobs which is the as the same as the PHC. Good luck MSW you may be getting a roster.
I know people who are on auto dialer " temporarily " - original role is hccp phc- to enroll for snp rns... were told they won't be going back to the phc role until Jan 2018. It's pretty easy to read between the " transparent" lines.. and yes hah is no longer enrolling for hccp for the year .
I agree the phc role is slowly being eliminated
So much misinformation. This site is not helping.
It looks as if the PHC roles are slowly being eliminated across the board
I am a different poster and I kinda feel like the program is going to change significantly especially if you are a PHC. It's possible that the HAH end for those that are not an HCM. When the program started it was with HCMs not the other disciplines
FCM are being hired only as contractors. Not sure about telephonic HCM
I am not the original poster, but I do know my team (which is part of SH) has been told by our coach SH is to merge with HCCP in July. We were told it is part of the ever-mysterious HAH 2.0, but no further details have been provided.
Not all of us were told about a merge. Just curious, was this in a team meeting?
Unless the poster is friends with BB, ER or MF she/he has no idea if HAH is ending of not. It is shear speculation. The coaches only know what little bit of info the coms feed them...which is only a tiny bit more than we know. The COMs know a little more but are threatened with their jobs not to share. Directors might know something but there is zero chance they would spill the beans! So this poster either likes to stir up trouble or is very tight with MF!
To the poster stating HAH will be ending...is this from a reliable source or more speculation? Contracting work or just offering less services to members in 2018?
I heard all of HAH will be done by the end of the year anyway
Why is communication so awful? We were told we were merging, but you are saying the PHC's on some of the teams will be given new rosters? Wouldn't it make sense for each PHC to work with their existing rosters and have new members added as needed? Is there a great deal of member movement planned (other than this week's graduations)? And will they be enrolling new members again at some point (I'm guessing they will need to, just haven't been informed as to when).
I had not heard that the programs were merging .