Thread regarding DXC Technology layoffs

WFR's are far from over....

Got this from the last earnings call followed by the Investors Q&A. If it is not clear to you the direction of DXC and what role you play in that future....

James Schneider - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

Good afternoon. Thanks for taking my question. Maybe, if you talked about the $1 billion in year one synergies, I think, at the Investor Day, you talked about workforce and supply chain being about $700 million of that and Paul thanks for sharing the color on the progress in the first quarter. As we think about the cadence for Q2, can you give us any kind of sense about what to expect there? Is it something that we should be expecting kind of to get to the $250 million range? Or any color there will be helpful.

Paul N. Saleh - DXC Technology Co.

Yeah, I think you're pretty close to the number, we'll see certainly is it somewhere in the $75 million, $80 million of additional actions. And many of them coming in again from the permanent combination of procurement and labor savings. But labor saving is not just workforce optimization. We're looking at converting some of our external labor where it makes sense particularly in certain skill set and particularly in certain geography.

At the same time we're continuing to use automation as an opportunity to just really drive greater efficiencies in our labor force, and that is not just in high cost market, that's also showing up in our low-cost markets. And the other thing that's a great opportunity for us that we're just really starting to embark on is the pyramid. working just making sure that we've had the first phase of management layer elimination, but we have still to continue to attract younger talent in the right location and continue to develop the talent that we have and give them opportunity to expand their capabilities.

John Michael Lawrie - DXC Technology Co.

Yeah. I think that's a good answer, Jim. I mean it's not a small deal to remove four layers of management in 90 days. And what we have found, and this goes back to the first question that Arvind asked, is we did find a fair amount of overlap. That was the working thesis behind the merger of the two companies that there were significant synergies there. And I think the key point is we are finding those synergies. We're executing fairly expeditiously against those, while at the same time, while at the same time investing in the future. So we're making a big investment in automation and what we called bionics. So that investment is being made. We're making a big investment in nearshore. So we're taking a look at building a low-cost delivery center in the United States that would support not only our commercial business, but our USPS business.

We had a very strong graduate recruiting program this year. So we're bringing in a lot of kids. We're looking at internships and co-op programs and investing in training and re-skilling of our people. So I don't want anybody to think this is just about taking costs out. I mean, we took quite a few people out in the first quarter, but we also hired 6,000 people in the first quarter, 6,000, okay. And we need to do that to continue to refresh the workforce. So there is a lot of activities here, Jim, and you can see there is a lot to execute against, but we feel pretty comfortable that we have got a handle on the plan and we're going to continue execute.

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I'm still wondering why I am not seeing anything in the news about an age discrimination lawsuit spinning up. With all the focus on 'refreshing the workforce', as in getting rid of the older/more expensive workers and replacing them with younger/cheaper/fresher workers fresh out of school (I see the word 'grad' used often), then surely there must be someone out there investigating and age discrimination action. I would certainly jump on that wagon...

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Post ID: @3jma+OLPNXtV

Just heard in a India Town-hall, 20,000 will be let go Global in the next 8 months.

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Post ID: @3xrv+OLPNXtV

I feel humbled to having been refreshed (aka WFR'd) and replaced by kids. It will take an army of them to replace my 20+ years of experience in the IT industry across a wide variety of experiences and knowledge areas.

Is it possible to automate Mikey? Just imagine some VB script or Java code spitting out random messages as communications for the masses of kids to devour.

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Post ID: @3ary+OLPNXtV

seems like snipers were recently hired at DXC who took out employees .. hehe

now resorted to hiring kids while their own hair has turned from grey to white.

most of this will be offshored to the cheapest locations on the planet. the senior management will visit these 3rd world countries and have the time of their lives in lavish resorts etc while the kids are working their lives off for the management only to be WFR'd when their hair is a bit grey.

... the vicious cycle goes on, fresh blood to be drunk by the management vampires.

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Post ID: @3ulw+OLPNXtV

I think they used the words "kids" because "low paid Mexicans" wouldn't play well with the audience.

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Post ID: @2dff+OLPNXtV

Trump doesn't give two sh--s about the perils that American IT workers face. He gravitates towards those who are more easily enticed by his populist rhetoric, and IT workers in general are too educated and intelligent to fall for it.

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Post ID: @1bhv+OLPNXtV

I'm pretty sure its in our marketing spiel, a company that prides itself in having 40 years of experience and expertise in specialist fields, yet we offer our clients, grads who are still wet behind the ears! Yes, employ grads to keep the knowledge going, but treat all your staff well enough so that they stay to grow the company. Who in their right mind would come to DXC, You surely would be daft. But then I wouldn't employ a daft person!

Right now, I think DXC must be skirting not only the employment laws across the world, but I'm if not mistaken Trump said he would stand for jobs leaving the US to be outsourced elsewhere in the world! Everybody's equal guys, but some are less equal than others, you only have to look at the director share dealing to see evidence!

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Post ID: @1lgb+OLPNXtV

I cant imagine how this is not age discrimination. In the midst of WFR he says "So we're bringing in a lot of kids." Perhaps, he shouldnt have used the word kids, which is definitely a reference to age.

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Post ID: @1jac+OLPNXtV

@OLPNXtV-nii "why not keep those 6,000 and no retraining."

Because someone who's worked for the company for 15 years earns $XXXXXXXX and the kids only rate $XXXXX.

The mistake they make is that they believe that IT is easy and that "the cloud and automation" is much simpler.

What they fail to understand is that modern super dense infrastructure is far from easy. What used to be a single server now is a database driven application running on a server farm with complex networks and external SAN storage etc etc. Its far from simple like the old days.

The other mistake is that the youngsters will be happy with a starter salary once they have some experience under their belt. DXC won't ever give them a raise based on their growing skill set and so they will be off....

In other words, like everything else, this is a short term quarter based idea to meet their 12 week objective and not actually a sustainable method of growth.

Not that they care...

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Post ID: @1jit+OLPNXtV

"I mean, we took quite a few people out in the first quarter, why not keep those 6,000 and no retraining.

Like everyone said "kids" low cost , low production. If that what Dixie wants so be it.

Lets get rid of Paul N. Saleh and John Michael Lawrie , the merger is done. We can get kids from low cost area's for that as well.

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Post ID: @nii+OLPNXtV

I've had to work with some of the "kids" he is referring to. Yes, they are eager "near-shore" workers that dxc can pay very little for but they are trained for a month and let loose to perform work it took most of us years to get proficient at.

I spend half my days fixing the "kids" work.

And the cycle will continue as it always has, train then until they have a little skill, then they go work for another company that will pay them more. We've tried this for over 15 years. When will the morons we call CEO's get it.

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Post ID: @tns+OLPNXtV

Perhaps they think they can take out labor costs by selling off pieces of the existing portfolio they consider to be not worth retaining. There is very little clarity on direction for all of their government contracts: federal, state and local.

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Post ID: @kls+OLPNXtV

I can see how young talent would be attracted to DXC as a way to start a career, but there's no way anyone looking for stability, loyalty, and rewards for a job well done can consider DXC an option.

DXC has a huge image problem with the workforce and with customers alike.

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Post ID: @rdo+OLPNXtV

OP here. Thought this line particularly interesting as a peak into the mindset. From the Q&A in the above post...

"I mean, we took quite a few people out in the first quarter, but we also hired 6,000 people in the first quarter, 6,000, okay. And we need to do that to continue to refresh the workforce."

"...took... out..." - WOW, just WOW. Not the best wording.

"... refresh the workforce." - I have a little grey in beard, prime target.

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