Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Do managers/directors get to see the list before it goes out?

Past/Current management chime in!

Do you get to see the list before hand? if so how long before, I want to correlate my current neglect by management with what they already know.

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Post ID: @OP+OtINtMr

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A past manager's experience: the process is incompetent by design (and if you think about it, perhaps by necessity.) The decisions are made at VP or Director level, depending who holds the budget, and there is a requirement for minimum information going to lower levels of management, who may therefore have no knowledge or influence when the decision is made. They just get to implement it. It gets worse if managers and people below them are being LR'ed since detailed management information about staff capability and what they are doing is entirely missing from the decision.

LRs are defined by headcount, but Finance can be persuaded to interpret purely by budget equivalent. Senior, and older staff on higher pay are more likely to be on the list if the the manager is using a budget target (as long as the staff are below the budget-holder decision level and not one of their network).

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Post ID: @5pgc+OtINtMr

The layoffs have nothing to do with performance or skillset. It's all about your network.

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Post ID: @2nyn+OtINtMr

First level provides top to bottom with key skill sets to 2nd and 3rd level. Depending on the amount they need to cut, they start from the bottom and may need to cut higher performers if a lower performer skill set is needed. At higher levels of management, they will review the list to ensure that it does not appear that a protected class is being targeted. It is either a budget target or headcount target. If budget, you will see higher grade/older employees affected. If headcount, lower performers.

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Post ID: @2axp+OtINtMr

Your second level manager decides whom to let go.

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