If there are 5000 cloud professionals around ? Will they join Oracle bmc cloud which is still in drawing board while nimbula and sparc cloud were dead on arrival.
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I think that it's important to remember that when Oracle management crows about its cloud "successes" that they are mostly talking about SaaS, which basically means the transition of Oracle software from on Premise to Oracle owned servers. I have seen plenty of media articles saying that Oracle is still way behind on PaaS and IaaS. It's not like that isn't well known.
I guess these cloud professionals aren't that smart. Or are gullible. You can easily see the success and buildout of AWS. ORCL cloud is not visible anywhere. No one talks about it, except LE. It's BS and water vapor.
"A customer wrote to my SE, does 'soup'ercluster affected by sparc shutdown ?"
of course. M8SC will be the end of the road. up to your customer if they want to invest in a dead technology for another 2 years or just start moving off proprietary/legacy and migrate to x86.
btw, on-prem Exa-sh-- will have the same evolution in the very close future, so your customer better think migrate to open technology and move out of Oracle completely
Love this thread. Passionate. Wish we had so much passion and engagement in our scrum sessions. I just updated my resume.
Oracle looks like a used car showroom, no body respects oracle because of greedy licensing. Sparc was killed by software sales guys who sold exalogic and exadata boxes to replace sparc boxes. No wonder both sparc boxes and solaris on life support.
A customer wrote to my SE, does 'soup'ercluster affected by sparc shutdown ?
@hgd, your post has the strong ring of truth to it! "Oracle is just trying to stall and hang on to enough customers to maintain their support stream/cash flow." Indeed. Or to paraphrase another poster from a day or two ago...IT'S ALL ABOUT THE STOCK PRICE!!!
There was a field sales individual who joined from a competitor with Cloud experience. Apparently, the whole story of how Oracle's "integrated Cloud" was poised to take off and dominate was enough for s/he to jump ship and believe that Oracle would be coming on strong in the months and years ahead. Imagine the surprise when, during a strategy session on how to hit quota, their manager indicated that every account was going to be targeted for a license audit as the path to gain revenue for the year.
I pity anyone who falls for Oracle's "marketing." While there is a niche for Oracle to experience success (SaaS, "Cloud" hardware and database), the Oracle Cloud is a glorified hosting environment and calling it "Cloud" is questionable at best.
The ranks of India-based employees and "Hub"-based college grads had been a significant area of growth as of recently. There have been some field personnel who came from competitor as well, but it doesn't take them long to see that they fell for a "vision" with little reality to back it up. However, it all counts in Oracle's tally of hiring and is yet another storyline aimed at convincing investors and potential hires that Oracle Cloud is the place to be. Oracle is just trying to stall and hang on to enough customers to maintain their support stream/cash flow.
The idea that hiring kids out of college for development is somehow going to cause great things to happen, is completely ridiculous. It's like the management has bought into the stupid stereotype that all you need is some genius kid from college to write the code for you.
Well, they're not geniuses. They're just kids with CS degrees. They know nothing, especially about web development. Web development is often not even a subject that is taught in college. Web developers learn on the job and you can't learn anything in this area at Oracle after coming out of school with a CS degree.
And the few geniuses that might come out of college at a bargain price should be smart enough to avoid working at Oracle. If by some chance they actually accept a job at Oracle, they will be quite literally attacked by the low-life narcissistic incompetent weirdos that control oracle development in the cloud area. Can't have anyone showing any of them up.
There is no way anything will change. It's a huge mess and making clueless PR announcements won't change anything.
Maybe they will work on Gen3 to replace bmc who knows
They will be hiring kids straight out of college for these roles.
Don't worry, Oracle is building a new high school in front the HQ to train future cloud professional for Oracle Cloud. They laid off many tech veterans yesterday to pave the way for the upcoming high school graduated Cloud professional.
Love this response.
Don't worry, Oracle is building a new high school in front the HQ to train future cloud professional for Oracle Cloud. They laid off many tech veterans yesterday to pave the way for the upcoming high school graduated Cloud professional.