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Belgium and Luxembourg

Belgium and Luxembourg TSC have been send home as well on garden leave, just curious what the clients think about the most experienced engineers leaving?

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Post ID: @OP+PAXPRPz

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The people at the top don't have any idea what anyone does in Oracle. Experience and knowledge is not valued because they have no experience and knowledge themselves. They got to the top by s---ing up to other management and manipulating the people around them. They have learned how to fake everything so that it "sounds" like they have some idea what they are doing.

They think then, "well look where I got without knowing anything" and they then can't see the value of intelligent people or people who have built up knowledge. They literally think that everything can be faked. If you then try to argue with them, that your knowledge is important to the company, they just can't comprehend. Everything is fake. They will assume that you are just making up what you say about knowing how something works. After all, that's what they are doing.

They are all incompetent narcissistic nut-bags, faking everything they say and assuming everyone else is doing the same thing. They don't have any idea what makes anything actually work.

It's all over at Oracle. They will decimate the company and then wonder what went wrong.

Like Donald Trump: "Who could have known that healthcare could be so complicated"

Idiots, all of them. Get out and find a decent place to work.

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Post ID: @apf+PAXPRPz

I guess your missing the point here, all TSC engineers in Oracle were working remote, so there is no difference in moving that to another country or not. What Oracle is systematically doing is cutting all high level experienced engineers out of the org. and moving the work to low cost countries like Romania (only country soon left in EU ) and India/China.

What is the bad part in this is Oracle is loosing all knowledge that have been build up during lots of years, more then 20 years, some will argue that we have knowledge databases for that, but reality is that a knowledge database even if maintained perfectly can not solve the experience of a engineer which knows the tricks of the field and thinks out of the box and in case of huge problems, is able to find workarounds to get a client going.

It takes years of practice and knowledge to be able to handle high level mission critical systems and software. Platinum clients of Oracle expect this but now get a student with no knowledge at all, or just a little knowledge working on their critical systems, following a script if able to found something similar in the knowledge database but just have no idea at all how things work. In most cases they have never even seen the system they work on, don't have any hands on experience, do not know what real troubleshooting is or in case of software have followed online training course the same as the clients do and are expected to solve big issues for that same client. What we see now that if the heat builds up these engineers block and try to search help which is then soon not available anymore in Europe or other parts and the next experienced engineer is hours away (USA). So next time you as client log a mission critical issue in the weekends and your based in Europe or Asia be aware if your still dealing with an experienced engineer (for EU till Feb. 2018) or get one of the students / little experienced ones.

Keep you finger on the escalation button in Oracle Support Portal and use it and if that doesn't satisfy you, you can press it again to Director level. Long time solution run away, run away as fast as you can from Oracle because after that cloud you may see the sun shine again

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Post ID: @iic+PAXPRPz

Two big countries still remain in EMEA

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Post ID: @xwn+PAXPRPz

8 people? Bloodbath. How will Oracle make it?

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Post ID: @gex+PAXPRPz

Approximately 6 in Belgium and 2 in Luxembourg are affected.

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Post ID: @lrm+PAXPRPz

they will think it's time to move to AWS.

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Post ID: @sui+PAXPRPz

clients dont pay more for more experienced engineers, what clients pay for piece of work keeps going down every year.

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Post ID: @meh+PAXPRPz

They will get new engineers but probably remote. They will save Oracle a lot of money. So what if they aren't as experienced or don't know as much. As long as they can follow a script? Maybe they will tell everyone to move to the cloud where machine learning will provide support.

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Post ID: @hda+PAXPRPz

How many were impacted?

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