Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Solaris = abandonware

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0
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Money, money, money - it’s all that matters to the 3 stooges. Customer satisfaction? Who cares. Oracle is going out of business so all that matters is the cash they can get in over the next few quarters. After that? No more oracle

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-4qog

The reason why Oracle's support has gone to be on critical life support (awful customer satisfaction for the past couple years), and most of what is described below as Public Cloud back-line unable to answer basic Linux Q's is a simple but very sad reason : That nearly all portions of Oracle have Executives with Indian backgrounds and connections (Thomas K, Hamidoo, etck) that advocated the layoff of Sr. technical resources to offshore like the guy below commented on to create HUBS that Oracle is using with dozens of kids out of college for peanuts, yes a huge on in India that adds a day to support or presales work, and another in Virginia still unable to handle basic tasks for the past year since they don't yet know Oracle's basic products, no joke and if customers knew, yikes time to exit stage left). But then again, probably an industry exec secret kept hidden, get as many H1B Visas or if possible, no need, just grow huge campuses in India and roll the dice like Oracle has done).

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-4dvo

I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I see how helpless the FA and OPC teams are when it comes to using Linux. We forced some of the best Unix talent in the world out the door with our Solaris layoffs, while at the same time OPC is run by people who spend their days desperately trying to find people from other teams that can help them with simple command line tasks. I know we save money by not keeping experienced people around, but isn't our own cloud supposed to be important to us?

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-4ldu

@Rbdwgg0-3hig:

Solaris, while both are the best CPU's and OS on the planet

You need serious help.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-4mxa

"I work in Solaris development. People are still working on it, and not just fixing bugs. RTI's are still being submitted and code is being pushed. If you want to believe that development has stopped, knock yourself out."

You're deluding yourself. The only updates are critical bug fixes by sustaining which Oracle are being paid support dollars for. All real development is over as Solaris is EOL'd. Time to move on and stop pretending.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-4kwh

People have a death grip on the 1980s Sun memories. Back when Sun and Solaris mattered.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-4ycy

Why do we still have posts on Solaris ? Isn't it a closed chapter ?

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-4mdl

I was just part of a large several hundred employee field HW sales staff laid off last week (beyond the thousands laid off last summer/fall that included all of SPARC engineering and 75% of Solaris development/support). As another person posted under the other recent Oracle entry, nearly all of us were attached to SPARC and Solaris sales (though no Solaris sales personnel have existed for a long time, all but very few SPARC HW reps were laid off and all SPARC direct-attached field pre-sales engineers, consultants, and architects were laid off. Oracle has decided they can move and handle most of the SPARC sales quoting and architecture work to their new "hub" approach using young/cheap out of college students in India and Virginia (but sadly no understanding of the technology nor sales matters, just saving Safra more $$). What's equally sad, as someone else wrote on another post is true, that no employees had been called by HR or helped to find internal jobs (one manager told me they were specifically told to court external candidates with AWS/Azure/Google experience or younger and much less expensive staff they could train). While as the other poster said, this makes business sense, the irony that it is still happening after Oracle will now be saving %BILLIONS$S in taxes under the new Trump Corp tax rate decreases !!

The sad truth about SPARC and Solaris is that yes, it WILL die with no future HW plans or Chips beyond the latest CPU's just released (so a technical dead-end). The same for Solaris, while both are the best CPU's and OS on the planet, they haven't been part of Oracle's top Executive decisions that are led by the "Old Oracle" where SW is the focus and Oracle Linux gets a higher priority to advertise (and no SPARC or Solaris products have been marketed for years, so what does anyone expect??). With Cloud now the #1 dog, expect only sustaining for Solaris and maybe an update late next year with what Oracle has supported on OEL for years.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-3hig

Working on an end of life OS must bring great job satisfaction. Knock yourself out.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-3zgb

"It sounds like you are the one planting false info. The prior poster's assertion would be consistent with the well known fact that Solaris development has stopped."

I work in Solaris development. People are still working on it, and not just fixing bugs. RTI's are still being submitted and code is being pushed. If you want to believe that development has stopped, knock yourself out.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-3qyl

"If you insist there have been no Solaris Hg pushes for two months, you are either misinformed, or are lying."

It sounds like you are the one planting false info. The prior poster's assertion would be consistent with the well known fact that Solaris development has stopped.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-2dvt

"HR drone alert!"

Why would HR care about Solaris?

If you insist there have been no Solaris Hg pushes for two months, you are either misinformed, or are lying.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-2vbz

https://blogs.oracle.com/solaris/continuous-delivery%2c-really

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-2tyz

"That is not true."

HR drone alert!

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-2wnh

"The last commit to the Solaris mercurial repo was 2 months ago."

That is not true.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-1lfr

The last commit to the Solaris mercurial repo was 2 months ago.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-1ifc

EOL.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-1uwy

no Meltdown fix for x86 Solaris. no Spectre fix for SPARC or x86 Solaris. All other OS vendors patched their stuff awhile ago. Nothing but dead silence from Oracle.

GAME OVER

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-1kmz

I would like that they don't add new features to Solaris.

If they have fired most the of the development of the Solaris team, I wouldn't like that they break the Solaris OS with the addition of new features coded by new and cheaper hired juniors.

Oracle has killed Sparc/Solaris and there isn't solution. A few updates can't change anything in the dead of this processor/OS.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-1tsm

Solaris.next

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/09/solaris_11next_becomes_solaris_114_but_new_features_arent_set/

By Simon Sharwood, APAC Editor 9 Jan 2018 at 06:29

The guts of its twin holiday season posts on the OS were that it plans to give the world Solaris 11.4 some time in 2018, and that the promised continuous delivery of new features announced as it canned version 12 of the OS have already begun.

Both posts put a very positive spin on things that may not be entirely justifiable.

The post on the next version of Solaris revealed it will be called “Solaris 11.4” instead of “Solaris.next” will emerge “ In the first half of 2018”. That’s in line with last year’s admision the release would be delayed and Oracle’s roadmaps that suggest deployment may not be an option until 2019.

But the post also revealed that the feature set of update is not settled: the post instead offered “a short list of just a few of the new capabilities that might be coming in Oracle Solaris 11.4.” Which suggests a debut late in 2018’s first half rather than any time soon.

The features under consideration are:

Enhanced exploit mitigation with SPARC SSM

Trusted Services via SMF

Unified statistics gathering with a RESTful API and a graphical interface.

Compressed & resumable replication with ZFS

Asynchronous ZFS data set destroy

Agent-less configuration and management via REST

Configuration at Scale via Puppet or Chef

Scalable Zone Boot Environment Management

Network configuration via SMF and AI

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-1lvd

Continuous abandonware.

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-1zly

That's a proper term

by | Post ID: @Rbdwgg0-lrf

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