Back in 2014 I knew this was going to happen. Changes needed made to keep afloat. We don’t have to like it. It needed to happen. We won’t go under soon but I project we will within the next 25 years.
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Ole lady just retired. I give em 10 years before sinking.
/@ bum with all due respect you need to seek counseling./
I have a hard time believing that you even know which posts are attributable to me. I've been accused of being at least 4 different people on this forum. There are at least two others in this very thread whom people have been chatting with as though they were responding to my previous posts, hence some of my own confusion in keeping people straight.
Given that this is an anonymous internet forum, I'd say the responses (both from me and the 4 others mistaken for me), have been pretty light-weight. If this seems like bullying to you, I suggest you stay away from all anonymous internet forums. Perhaps State Farm's Vivify site will be more to your liking -- the only people who will bother you there are HR reps.
I wasn't planning to post on this topic again given that it's impossible to even know who we're talking to, but your nonsense warranted a response.
Not sure it will take 25 years.
People arguing and name calling one another, please exchange email addresses and continue your banter off this site. Thank you.
@ bum with all due respect you need to seek counseling. Throughout this forum it have been evident you have issues with every1/thing. Almost a bully. I have been following and failed to say anything until now. Sorry you were laid-off but get over it. We all have the right to express our opinions without your commentary. Good day and much luck to you.
Not to mention the fact that the restructuring process encourages marketable employees to jump ship while those with less secure prospects hang on and hope for the best.
There is nothing about this re-org that is properly addressing the less than satisfactory hiring and firing practices that have persisted in Systems for the past 30 years.
/Excuse me? I have not identified the fat I made reference to. /
LOL -- I'm going to let that one slide...
/I am an Analyst who might or might no agree with OP. /
This is an anonymous forum. Feel free to change any reference that I incorrectly made to "you" and apply it to the actual subject of my remark, who was the author of a completely different OP. Or don't. I really do not care.
/Hiring practices and review processes needed to be better decades ago./
No sh--.
/ It wasn’t , still isn’t so there is fat. /
Hiring and firing practices have always s---ed, but the big problems in Systems presently were the result of the last re-org, and the completely detached management/reporting structure that allowed that re-org to happen in the first place.
If not for the last re-org, which inflated Systems to previously unimaginable sizes, a proper re-organization could have addressed the real problems with far less impact to the employees or the organization.
/Not open for debate./
Everything is open for debate.
**REGARDING: The problem wasn't the bluntness. It was the assumption on your part that you had clearly identified the "dead weight." There is plenty of dead weight in systems -- I've said so multiple times. But the problems are not the ones you've identified. As in, just because you don't know what people do doesn't mean they are "fat who should be trimmed."
Part of the problem is the last re-org. Part of the problem is the hubs themselves. But there's no way to roll back the clock on that stupidity.
By way of comparison, I've heard talk of customer dissatisfaction with the claims process, but you don't see me calling for the heads of Claims employees because I'm smart enough to understand that executive leadership CREATED the problems that exist now in claims.**
Excuse me? I have not identified the fat I made reference to. I am an Analyst who might or might no agree with OP. Hiring practices and review processes needed to be better decades ago. It wasn’t , still isn’t so there is fat. Not open for debate.
/Better to get rid of the fat so they can collect u/e versus being paid wages to take up space. Financially the smartest thing to do. My apologises for being blunt. While I disagree with the process in which action is being taken it is evident steps should have been taken a decade ago./
The problem wasn't the bluntness. It was the assumption on your part that you had clearly identified the "dead weight." There is plenty of dead weight in systems -- I've said so multiple times. But the problems are not the ones you've identified. As in, just because you don't know what people do doesn't mean they are "fat who should be trimmed."
Part of the problem is the last re-org. Part of the problem is the hubs themselves. But there's no way to roll back the clock on that stupidity.
By way of comparison, I've heard talk of customer dissatisfaction with the claims process, but you don't see me calling for the heads of Claims employees because I'm smart enough to understand that executive leadership CREATED the problems that exist now in claims.
Better to get rid of the fat so they can collect u/e versus being paid wages to take up space. Financially the smartest thing to do. My apologises for being blunt. While I disagree with the process in which action is being taken it is evident steps should have been taken a decade ago.
/ While you think it’s cool to make jokes there are peeps stressing. /
You don't think I am stressing? I've actually lost my job and have no idea where I will be working in two months, if anywhere. I have bills to pay. My wife does not make enough to cover our bills.
The jokes I've made are because the posts I'm responding to are politically tone-deaf and ignorant.
/Maybe being laid off helps you find humor in the situation when there is none./
Humor is a coping mechanism. Apparently, it's also a coping mechanism to make a "call out" thread referring to giant swathes of company as being "fat" that should be trimmed.
Gee, thanks so much retirees! You left everyone this chickenwire boat and then want to crow about your wisdom and how “ you knew” as it sinks.
Maybe your family will pick some pestilential retirement home on the equator for you...
//////So now you've decided what our benefit to the company is based on how we responded to your inane posts on an anonymous message board? Well, you'll be happy to know I've already been laid off. So kindly go f--- yourself.//////
Not the same person man. I put the two sentences about comedians should go. While you think it’s cool to make jokes there are peeps stressing. Maybe being laid off helps you find humor in the situation when there is none.
/@ygz continue to be oblivious./
What did I say that makes you think I'm oblivious? Or even that I disagree? We have a lot of people on this site who are so keen to get offended that they literally make up arguments that never existed in the first place.
My point is that a prediction 25 years in the future is useless. And as far as the OP being able to see the writing on the wall 2 years ago, whoopy da doo. This sh-- has been obvious to EVERYONE for at least the last 8 years.
/////Too many comedians that should be the ones to go.Yep!////
So now you've decided what our benefit to the company is based on how we responded to your inane posts on an anonymous message board? Well, you'll be happy to know I've already been laid off. So kindly go f--- yourself.
The investment income can sustain the company for many years but not the long haul. 25 is probably correct if you run the #’s.
Its funny when you hear the sales leaders and others talk about how 2018 is just going to be an amazing year. Look for all good things in 2018.
Haha...25 years? When I left 3 years ago, I said State Farm had 5 years before the point of no return and 10-15 years tops before they ran out of money and became a footnote in history. Seems Tipsord has fast-tracked this timeline. State Farm decided to play "defense" by cutting back on personnel and employee morale/perks, which have a direct impact on new and existing customer happiness and engagement. Pennywise and pound foolish. The company will probably lose more money this year and in response play more "defense". Meanwhile, the company downplays the results by pointing to their investment portfolio. With the Dow at 25,000, any monkey can have amazing returns.
@ygz continue to be oblivious. I agree with this. We are in this mess for a reason. Hey think about it.
/////Too many comedians that should be the ones to go.///////
Yep!
Yeah, if you have any financial background plus the state of the current business that seems pretty right on.
@ygz LOL
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a psychic in the house....
I'm not an State Farm employee but I was with them for 20+ years until I had an accident that I felt was clearly not my fault and after an investigation State Farm agreed. When the other person's insurance company claimed I was at fault I felt State Farm didn't do nearly enough to fight for me, paid my claim using my collision insurance and then jacked my rates up even though it was my first claim of any kind in about 8 years. The day after I got the notice of rate increase I switched all my insurance to USAA. My agent, who I used for years and benefitted from $230/mo in premiums, couldn't have cared less. I feel bad for the employees (the school I went to for undergrad sent a lot of new grads to Bloomington) but if State Farm goes, good riddance.