Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

Age?

Seriously, are some stating that State Farm won’t keep people that are older?

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EEOC claim mailed in re age discrimination, retaliation, hostile work environment, etc. I decided to speak up about unethical and probably illegal treatment I experienced.

Encouraging all experiencing discrimination to file EEOC claim.

You can set up in their system and get an appointment that is months away to then file your claim and or mail in your claim request per their website. EEOC is federal government and in many states your filed claim with EEOC also handle state investigation.

They will review and determine if they will investigate and if they do they will interview employees and request documents and seek remedial corrections, etc.

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Post ID: @aitt+SkkBupl

f you are in Systems, you should have deep technical expertise. A Systems BA calling in to test for an implementation or being the middle person between systems and business isn't skilled in technical processes. Therefore, expendable.

Spoken like someone who has never experienced what a quality business analyst does. If you have, then you know they are not expendable. One could forgive you for not knowing that if all you've worked with are ISD BAs, however. As ISD basically destroyed business analysis at State Farm.

But no, business analysis does not require "deep technical expertise" to be of tremendous benefit to Systems projects. What it does require is deep knowledge of how to document fine-gained business requirements using requirements inventories and use cases, which is something most developers cannot do adequately and which most ISD BAs never learned at all.

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Post ID: @ytt+SkkBupl

I remember that during the last proximity re-org in my area there were a lot of older people told that there was no job offer for them. The company was smart enough to sprinkle in a few younger people but predominantly the people let go were over 50.

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Unfortunately, I believe it’s a thin line and there is no doubt State Farm Legal knows what side of that line to be on. They would never risk a class action over a restructure.

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Post ID: @otk+SkkBupl

When they will not let you know what your competencies are "according to them" and your competencies clearly match the job descriptions -it seems clear what is going on. It doesn't seem like people that are getting 3/3 are not meeting expectations. It is heartbreaking to so many people that have worked so hard. I would not ever want to be in the place of the people that simply read a "script" letting go of these valuable and very talented individuals. To live with doing that to great people would have to be sad. People must sign a "no-sue" clause to receive a voluntary severance and have money to live on which is a hard decision when you know that they are targeting people wrongly.

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Post ID: @qex+SkkBupl

Yes employees with many years are expensive, but you could still be in your 30s at a Level 3 and making too much money and not providing enough value. If you are in Systems, you should have deep technical expertise. A Systems BA calling in to test for an implementation or being the middle person between systems and business isn't skilled in technical processes. Therefore, expendable. They are targeting ROLES and Levels not age.

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Post ID: @vly+SkkBupl

Let it finish and see the numbers...age & tenure may be deciding factors...especially among the Proximity workers...those are the folks who have been w/ the company a long time...they didn't want to relocate and have been--until now--fortunate enough to not have to move. That means they are tenured and older for the most part...and more expensive in salaries to the company. Companywide ages issues may not be apparent. In that particular area, if singled out, we may find a large number of tenured folks are displaced.

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Post ID: @uch+SkkBupl

The salient question seems to be whether anyone is pursuing a legal challenge on the basis of age discrimination. There's been a lot of talk here, but nothing solid. Unclear if there is a case. But on the surface, a lot of these terminations smell fishy.

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Post ID: @ehi+SkkBupl

I certainly wouldn't doubt it. And I'm speaking from experience. I went through it. I'm glad I'm retired. Haven't missed It at all. Older employees are expendable. No questioning that.

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