Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

For those who don't believe there is a huge layoff round incoming

This was posted in another thread as an answer to a post skeptical of big layoffs ( @Sm4jhmi-1xfm ), but I thought it should stand on its own as it is a perfect rebuttal:

Wow. $1,114,000,000 dollars set aside to layoff people at oracle by the end of FY18 which is May 31 2018.

Reported to the SEC right here on page 16: (cut and paste the link) http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001341439/d68e7357-e1ab-40fe-88ba-56d6b1f79f76.pdf

$474,000,000 paid out and over 8,000 people laid of since May 31 2017. We know we have $640,000,000 to be paid out by May 31st 2018, which by all accounts that we can reasonably total is about 11,500 employees.

We know the date and we know the dollar amount. Either you are a troll or you are a new hire at Oracle. The seasoned professionals can do basic math, can read a 10Q when its linked and explained.

Would you call over 25,000 employees let go over a years time a massive layoff? That is 19% of the work force. But they have been replaced over time by less experienced, and lower paid people over the past nine months.

If you really think there is no layoff coming, and when you check your w2, its probably less than 100k, then yes you are completely safe. You will not be laid off. You are exactly the kind of person MH wants at Oracle.

True it has been a slow bleed since January. And many people thought March 1 was going to be significant, it was not. But that means the remaining balance will be paid out May 31st 2018, because that is what is stated on the 10Q. But that is where the rumor ends.

Facts supported by legally binding documents submitted to the federal government are not rumors. If you can not tell the difference between factual quarterly financial reports and rumors, and you currently work for Oracle then that is a real problem... not just for you, but for Oracle.

The execs used accrual based accounting which is a win in my book. If you really believe what you say "this is all rumors- no big layoff" then I can see a glimpse of the dark side. If all it takes is a slow long layoff to confuse you and I slowly take away benefits, bonus and pay and you can't understand basic accrual based accounting debits and credits... then maybe MH is right and its the way to get rich. I do feel sorry for you, honestly. But this comment really lessens my sympathy.

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I can only tell you about Sun's business at Oracle. It's all moved from active development to sustaining, and now to shutting down.

Wrong, not all. Some are active and thriving. Get your info straight.

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Post ID: @1rti+Sp4tXm7

I can only tell you about Sun's business at Oracle. It's all moved from active development to sustaining, and now to shutting down. Which is a shame, really, some parts of it are still in demand, and Oracle should have divested itself of parts of the business long ago.

Solaris should have been open sourced completely, whether as Sun's CDDL or Apache licence, and this would have allowed some functionality to live on and would have let Oracle legally adopt Solaris's useful parts into Linux.

That would let Oracle position itself with an ability to support anyone running Solaris (or parts thereof) in production, this also goes for ZFS arrays. A lot of large companies with deep pockets mix and match software and hardware for their specific needs, and simply need commercial support to be able to sign it off.

Tape, along with HSM and DIVA, should have been divested and sold to somebody out there (Veritas, Spectra and Quantum spring to mind). Though I think that should have happened at least two or three years ago, and it's too late now.

I guess SPARC, x64 and disk (other storage) product groups would have been in trouble, since they were losing their attractiveness, and Oracle simply didn't have the gut to introduce SPARC S7 at prices to rival low-cost IBM POWER deployments, where SPARC might have prevailed in at least some benchmarks.

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Post ID: @1nxb+Sp4tXm7

why do we need multiple thread discussing the same thing?

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Post ID: @1flj+Sp4tXm7

Real News

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Post ID: @1enf+Sp4tXm7

Fake news

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Post ID: @1djy+Sp4tXm7

Financial reports show transactions after the fact. what's this total amount to spend on restructuring and amount already spent numbers really mean? Total to spend should be total already spent in the last period, and amount already spent is this period.

If they set aside amount to spend on restructuring, it simply means they move cash into an asset account, there is no obligation to spend them all, or over spend, or spend within a fixed timeframe. They can always write a journal to move funding out of or into these accounts.

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Post ID: @zkx+Sp4tXm7

They already paid out at least $309 mil in Oracle's 10-K Annual from 2017.

http://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001341439/05215062-8f4e-4311-8d1f-5cfc40237a9b.pdf

plus they don't need to execute everything in Q4 2018. Look at the 10-K from 2017, they were still paying out 2015 restructuring.

With that being said, they'll probably announce a 2019 restructuring to continue with the bloodshed even when all of 2017 restructuring has been paid out.

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