Oracle's "cloud" is crap and that's why no one is buying it -- except for existing on-prem customers who are being dragged into the cloud via cloud washing (i.e., cloud credits). Potential customers who have not dealt with Oracle before do their homework and with very little effort can see that there are better options.
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I have worked for many companies. Oracle stands out as unbelievably dysfunctional. Massively incompetent management on top of disastrously dishonest leadership will make Oracle go down in flames. There is nothing good going on at Oracle.
I'm not the OP and wasn't RIF'ed. I left because significant portions of Oracle are out to screw over customers, to use its employees and mislead Wall Street. It is all for the benefit of LE (and those close to him). It is a company that is masterful at manipulation. You'd fit right in.
U can substitute LE and O for any other tech titan and the same would apply. So what you are saying is absolutely NOTHING!
"Angry post by an angry bitter former employee. Any wonder why you were RIF’ed?"
I'm not the OP and wasn't RIF'ed. I left because significant portions of Oracle are out to screw over customers, to use its employees and mislead Wall Street. It is all for the benefit of LE (and those close to him). It is a company that is masterful at manipulation. You'd fit right in.
The claim by the OP is absolutely true. The sales teams were required to financially engineer each and every deal to include Cloud credits and also incentivized to sell anything that could be claimed as "Cloud" (e.g. on-premise machines with "Cloud" software). Then the pre and post sales organizations were tasked with trying to get customers to actually use the credits that were included in deals (despite the fact that the customer only went with the Cloud credits because that option provided a discount on support costs and an overall lower cost path). For SaaS apps, customers are being forced into choosing them as on-premise implementations are being desupported. It's all a game to make claims about Cloud revenue.
As others have pointed out, Oracle's "Cloud" is a bunch of disconnected datacenters. Seriously. The recommendation for handling disaster recovery for applications is for a customer to pay to connect to two Oracle datacenters and then run the traffic through the corporate network all because Oracle hasn't connected all of its datacenters yet. Trying to connect different Oracle services can be difficult and time consuming. Processes aren't consistent. Capacity is so tight that Oracle field personnel aren't given demo accounts and it can take months to onboard a large customer as hardware needs to be ordered. Oracle's datacenters and the offerings in them are nothing close to a Cloud -- it is hosting at best.
This OP is very accurate.
Currently the claims by Le That oracle cloud is super secure are complete lies and marketing spin.
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All the products don’t run in the same cloud or have consistent configuration for security. So you can’t really make this claim with 100 percent accuracy across all products.
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The autonomous database product (if it exists) is not part of the other multi tenant cloud products.. those products all have different kinds of infosec and opsec.
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Cloud at customer is a fabrication and does not exist for the multi remnant cloud products.
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Fusion apps aren’t true cloud architecture apps in the slightest.
The whole thing is bubble gum & super glued together.
Has they been smart they would have continued to invest in legacy products but because they did not bringing them back is not a great option anymore. Really dumb of the 3 stooges to try to go cold turkey and force customers to crappy cloud products, just plain dumb.
Sorry I misspoke. Instead of "mess" I should have said "clusterf--k".
Yes, I agree, Oracle's cloud is crap. I quit quite a while ago but am still in touch with people. It's a total mess in there.
OP is right on whether s/he was laid off or not
Yes, I think this is the absolute truth. Getting rid of the sales force and all of the experience those people have with legacy products, is not going to help in the end. Oracle is going to need the legacy sales in the end.
Spot on!