Thread regarding State Farm Insurance layoffs

Can anyone make a valid argument as to why you should stay post-reorg?

Please, serious posts only. I have been through 6 of these things and had always been able to find a reasonable excuse to stay. In the past, Fire Proximity decisions at least gave the illusion that job performance played a role in the decision making process. Also, my TM had input into that decision. With this latest re-org, the decisions were made based on zip code. What type of work I had done meant nothing, only where I lived. Also, the TM, nor anyone else above him had any input. I am struggling to find a positive reason to stay if my performance means nothing to the company.

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@StAq02n-fpyu * I was like you, but noticed after the last re-org that I was the oldest in my area. If you notice that, realize that you will be targeted next. I don't see anyone making 62 anymore...

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Post ID: @fhnb+StAq02n

The job market where I live is over saturated now due to the Farm, no other “real” jobs so where would I ever find new employment? My entire family and friends live here. I do not want to relocate. I am stuck after re-org if I have a job. My staying would have nothing to do with the Farm or wanting to be at the Farm anymore.

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Post ID: @fctk+StAq02n

Hmm m I ask myself the same thing a lot! This post really struck home. But it is like a responded on here said, what's the sense in starting over when your close to the finish line. With th e way we are losing money you r just as likely to stay a few more years. Hit 55, and go out through a reorg/ downsize with voluntary severance and full medical and pension benefits. Sounds bad. But believe another downsizing is coming If we don't turn a profit soon. May as well wait for the severance of u can.

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Post ID: @fpyu+StAq02n

@StAq02n-hgz - OP here - not having an "existential crisis", just being real. 29 years as a Proximity rep and up until now, performance mattered. Yes, there was always the understanding that you put in the time, the company owed you a pay check. There was also an implied agreement that if you were a top performer, you were relatively safe. This re-org exposed the harsh reality that at least for Fire Proximity, performance is not a consideration for your continued employment by the company. The decisions were made based on a zip code territory set up by someone at Corporate. Moving forward, the reality is that I have no more security than what is owed for the hours I have most recently worked. I hope that when your area is affected, you still have the same attitude towards your job because it will help when you are kicked to the curb.

TL/DR: @StAq02n-hgz you are an assclown.

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Post ID: @1rqf+StAq02n

Yes I agree but that mess may extend a few years to increase potential benefits. We have been dealing with cleaning up messes for quite some time. When was the last time we have been fully staffed. Years ago it was due to growth and promotions. Now its due to layoff's and firings. Same crap, new day!

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Post ID: @1vqi+StAq02n

Perhaps a reason NOT to stay is the friggin mess that’ll be waiting to be fixed.

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Post ID: @1gfd+StAq02n

It's a personal choice, if you are holding out for retirement, pension & benefits, that is understandable. Anything else, I'm not sure unless there are no options in your particular area. You have to do the best for you.

If you are in a Metro area it may be easy. Very remote area, not so... You have your options. Good luck!

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Post ID: @1pef+StAq02n

I think you should stay if they agree to pay you every 14 days. A lot of us are clinging to that now so the fact you have the audacity to post your existential crisis “my performance means nothing”..BS tells me your performance probably doesn’t matter because you are only concerned about yourself.

Was your goal here to string a bunch of words together that literally made no sense whatsoever?

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Post ID: @ggf+StAq02n

Follow the path you are on all the way to the finish line. Read the How To Prepare post below just in case you get the bad news. The reason is simple; there is no point in starting over IF you don't have to, BUT be prepared in case you must do so, OR you choose to leave because you get reassigned into a terrible new job. Besides, if you get reassigned into a terrible new job, stay there collecting paychecks until you land a new job elsewhere. If at all possible, avoid leaving one job without lining up your next one.

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Post ID: @uns+StAq02n

If you don't need this job, why are you posting here? Bail out and find a different one - every excuse you have not to are the reasons you have to stay.

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Post ID: @hga+StAq02n

I think you should stay if they agree to pay you every 14 days. A lot of us are clinging to that now so the fact you have the audacity to post your existential crisis “my performance means nothing”..BS tells me your performance probably doesn’t matter because you are only concerned about yourself.

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Post ID: @gof+StAq02n

I agree. I have been with the company 28 years and I can no longer find a reason to stay. My loyalty to the company now means nothing. The endless hours of after hours work and commitment go completely unrecognized. I am 50 and assume I will be on the chopping block soon. What incentive is there if I don't get chopped this round? The fear and worry about it coming in the next round would be a thought always lurking. Unless they can give me a guarantee of some sort and ease my mind of this constant stress and worry, there is no reason to stay. I was hoping my years to retirement would be with the company I have loved for so long. But it has changed and I know I do not want to be a part of a company that can play with people's lives the way they are now. Getting everything in line including a resume which I have never had to write in 28 years! I wish I could go out on a high note, but that is not the case. The only positive is that maybe now, with a little luck I can do something I really enjoy this next time around. Wishing everyone peace and strength through this difficult time.

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