So. The dept wide meeting today where the 80% of us who lost our jobs were told we just aren’t smart or good enough for the future of the company, just wondered what everyone else’s thoughts were as we were pretty much told we are worthless... How many of you are even considering attempting to post for anything with such a ridiculous company?
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Deployable trainers & RI's are not in L&D but they are impacted and are having to make the same hard choices as the rest of claims. Deployable Claim Specialists were not impacted (that's actually a growth position by about 92 positions).
@Syx6hiS-4tim - I think Deployed Trainers & Re-Inspectors were impacted with the Proximity cuts, not certain though.
@Syx6hiS-4tim, no it does not. But they are getting whacked too.
Does L&D include catastrophe trainers and reinspectors?
Everyone should ask for a copy pf the list of competencies and work projects that were supposedly submitted for consideration. We were told in the meeting last Friday to ask for those. Do those really exist?
@Syx6hiS-1cjp, I completely agree. Whoever wrote the message points should be out the door now. Also, those who presented them, did an amazing job of telling those who were not selected that they weren’t good enough or smart enough based on a bell curve document someone filled out for them. And then congratulating the few who were offered and actually accepted. What a waste of an hour of life. Laughing, sighing, harsh words, assuring no one felt valued - all of these things prove my choice to sever is the absolute best.
Personally, I think most departments are a cluster right now. But that doesn’t mean thousands of people should be losing their jobs. How about we make the necessary changes higher up. How do you savagely chop nearly an entire department, yet the leaders who brought things to the point they are now, are still here untouched? The process was 15 min meetings were scheduled back to back over two days with directors. You weren’t even given 15 min. You were told either “you were selected and here is your offer” or “you were not selected and your QTD is Aug 31”. Supposedly leadership was selected based on KLBs and the execs made those decisions, then for prof/tech, each manager scored you on some new world competencies that were newly written that none of us have been privy to (still even after getting a QTD) and then they chose 20 delegates to sit in a room for 4 days and spend less than 5 min discussing each person and chopping or keeping them. THEN they released 90% of those leaders. They weren’t deemed “competent enough” to move into future state, yet were “competent” to determine everyone else’s future. Great leaders were released. Great prof/tech, released. Some 65% or so were offered jobs and about 27% or so accepted. The ones who accepted are even looking outside now. The writing is on the wall and how we are all being treated speaks VOLUMES. Survivors remorse is real and is flooding corporate.
L&D has been a cluster for over a decade....surprised its only 80%.
It was really heartbreaking that during the meeting yesterday the man talking to all of us literally laughed three times. Personally I don’t think there is anything funny about doing this to people.
So you found out in a meeting? What was the process? Any additional advice for areas who are next?
I live in Bloomington. My QTD is Aug 31. I am not alone. HUGE chunk in Bloomington being released. Don’t let location fool you. The cuts are at Corporate too. This community is going to drown. And the armed guards are due to the massive layoffs and protection of the execs.
Not many left over the age of 40, nearly everyone who had used FMLA for an extended leave is also out, and high percentage of those who’ve been there over 10 years are out. If you’ve ever disagreed with someone on something, or pointed out risks in a project and didn’t just do as told, you’re out. Over 150 people jobless after Aug 31. People with 3 ratings and recent promotions and multiple designations, none of that mattered. You’re out. So sit around for 5 months and train the people they kept with NO experience how to do your job before your last day.
It is not a surprising plan, they want employees to be young and dumb. In the future what company is going to want employees who only know how to read from a script, talk fast due to be timed and base complex decisions based on some third party software that you enter data random data into. All new hires need to do is talk and type fast. I bet most new hires have no idea who the Farmer from Merna Is! Sad but true.
How many employees is the 80%?
I feel for L&D but am not surprised. I have been in the claims new model since the beginning. There has been no approved time for development since we went live. The model works so well there is no capacity for development. WIth no one in claims being developed, I guess the company determined there was o need for L&D.
L&D leadership has devalued and disregarded the talent in the department since becoming Enterprise L&D. They do not know the people who they have discarded or the people they have selected, so the selection is more about demographic information than it is about competencies. From inside, this is very apparent. In their choices lots of hits, some mediocre choices and some total misses. In the future state 45-55 years old not represented as well as neither is the over 58. So, competency based, my a--. All in all I'd rather align myself with the 62% who are moving on - the brain trust is really strong here.
That terrible news. I guess you don't need l&d when there's no one left to learn or develop. GREAT PLAN TIPSTURD AND THE GANG...
As someone in leadership who has wanted to be in L&D since joining the company, I am so sorry. My interactions with the delivery analysts and leadership have been some of the most positive I’ve had within State Farm. They certainly have NOT been worthless.I’ve thought of them each day since the announcements but haven’t wanted to reach out to ask “Are you safe?”... it’s heartbreaking.
Subpar in comparison? Seriously?
Our local newspaper should be getting the info. And the real story of what is going on. It’s definitely going to impact the community.
It isn't an employee that doesn't know L&D. It is our lovely local newspaper trolling for info.
Thanks all for the answers.
Syx6hiS-1hqy, I'm an employee, but only for 1+ years. I don't pay attention to many of the abreviations unless they are directly relavent to me.
From an overall company perspective, don't waste your time applying for a job if your over 50 and make over over 50K a year. Exception might be if your willing to work in a call center.
These employees were cut from corporate, and all over. Location was only relevant if you were outside a hub and not mobile. People in hubs and corporate were cut too. Tons of bloomington people released.
I don’t know any employee who doesn’t know what L&D is. Learning and Development for the whole company. Any class you have ever taken was taught by an L&D facilitator. Curriculum is designed there. Video on Demand. All of the Answers sites. MyBlock.
L&D is Learning and Development. They created and taught classes specifically to help employees become stronger in their roles. They included soft skills and technical classes. SF now uses generic online courses that are subpar in comparison. By not training and empowering your employees, you can replace them with contract (cheap) workers. Chalk another one up for Tipturd.
L&D is Learning and Development. They created and taught classes to specifically to help employees become stronger in their roles. They included soft skills and technical classes. SF now uses generic online courses that are subpar in comparison. By not training and empowering your employees, you can replace them with contract (cheap) workers. Chalk another one up for Tipturd.
They tell us the company is strong, but they cut L&D (which no one knows what it is) by 80%, and, coincidentally, they cut our maintenance staff by the same percentage. Does that sound like a strong company to anyone?
What is L&D , where are they located and how many total?
Voluntary severance
Holy schnikees! That is ridiculous! If they called L&D worthless, then what are they calling the ones that hired them?
QTD Aug 31
L&D cut 80% today???? What?
what is your QTD? were you offered a severance package? problem is, there just arent enough jobs that will be left for everyone. not to mention, if you are lucky enough to find one, how long will you be safe before another round hits