How visible has management been on this layoff? I am wondering if they are communicating with employees or hiding in the Ivory Tower. I know for a fact they are not in Islandia but any idea on how they are “showing” up?
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How many bright and intelligent workers go on to find better jobs? I believe that most people that leave CA, me included do better outside of CA. CA is a pretty flexible company and I miss aspects of that flexibility, but I am doing better outside of CA. Someone mentioned that high salary an older works are being targeted. Isn’t that most of the place. When I worked there the average age in my group was at least 50. I can probably name 10 people over 60 that are still in my old group and still making a lot of money and still probably doing little real value work. CA was good for me at that point in my life. No hard feelings to the people still there.
ID: @TidtFL7-4vhr
I’m sorry but you’re clueless. CA has been trying to grow for TWENTY years. EVERYTHING has failed. Without the mainframe CA wouldn’t even exist as a software company. Bright and intelligent workers are VERY expensive and if these people were contributing to consistent year-over-year growth them they would still be at CA. A company isn’t going keep expensive salaries around just because they are hard workers or intelligent people. That’s ridiculous. This isn’t the government CA is a publically held company. It’s a company that’s becoming more and more irrelevant ever year and the CEO knows it. He’s not just going to sit back and watch it die. He’s going to make moves.
I agree with the person that said “how dare you” in this thread. A lot of companies lay people off and CA is not alone in this. Go talk to someone that works at IBM or read that thread on this site. CA has and had many problems over the years. Yet and still, I think they still try to do thing properly most of the time.
@ TidtFL7-3dod. How dare you claim it is house cleaning and long overdue. Layoffs go on almost 4x a year. Many many bright, intelligent, great workers have been tossed out to meet quota on a spread sheet by age and location. It's very sad.
@ TidtFL7-3hgt
It makes perfect sense that expensive middle-managers and long-tenured people were let go as they would produce the biggest long term savings for the layoff activities and severance allocation. Why would you let go of two younger people making $75k each instead of one director or one sr director making $150k?
No matter how you look at it, this layoff makes perfect sense. It's a long overdue housecleaning and restructuring for an urgent growth initiative that has already been stalled for 10+ years. Executive management, shareholders and the board of directors are getting impatient. How many more quarters / years can the CEO report "ho-hum" numbers to wall street?
None of this is shocking. At all.
some folks that have been let go DO have knowledge on SaaS yet still were let go. How do you explain this exactly? when performance was a non issue. seems to also be the case sr ranking “ middle managers or Individual contributors “ w high tenure and high salaries were targeted.
Management has been very transparent about these layoffs as far as I can tell. They announced them at earnings, talked about them on internal forums and the CEO addressed them at his Town Hall meeting. They told us why they are happening and how they relate to the corporate growth strategy. They fully explained their real estate plan and how they want more groups co-located together rather than spread out in satellite offices or work-from-home scenarios.
There has been more info given to employees about this layoff than any I can remember in the past and I have seen a ton of them.