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"Oracle is way ahead of Amazon in cloud infrastructure technology"

So LE made this statement on the conference call. On what basis can he seriously make this claim?

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Post ID: @OP+VdkroOq

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@VdkroOq-lpn and @VdkroOq-ffc:

I've heard these arguments about OCI, especially that performance is much better. But, you have to realize that that doesn't mean anything. You are looking too much at one feature and you are not seeing the big picture.

You could write the best editor for a particular type of file, but if you put it inside of JDev, no one will use it. OCI might have great performance, but it doesn't matter, if the applications the customer needs are not there to use or if those applications can't work together, or if Oracle's reputation is so bad that no one will want to take a chance on it... etc. etc.

You are developing code in a vacuum. It doesn't matter how great you make the small part that you work on, everything around it s---s. You should get a clue and get a real job. You are wasting your time at Oracle. You really are. There are real projects to look forward to outside of Oracle, but NOTHING at Oracle is worth putting any effort into.

I wasted my time there, you shouldn't waste yours.

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Post ID: @1jmt+VdkroOq

THIS: A good lie to tell because in contrast to financial disclosure fraud, this one is much harder to disprove in a lawsuit, and hey, if a few analysts believe it even for a short time, so much better.

SO RIGHT.

Who is chief legal counsel for Oracle? Or main law firm on retainer for Oracle & Safra. You can rest assured that the legal eagles are the ones who helped MH, SC, and LE craft this earnings report "talk track". Oracle is very clever at "how they say things" so as to give themselves lots of running room to lie and deceive.

This most recent script on the business "performance" by oracle is much harder to disprove in a lawsuit. Much harder. It just depends on what your definition of is, is.

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Post ID: @mho+VdkroOq

Oracle manage analysts well to keep the share price. These (Analysts) id--ts don't know anything what oracle Cloud is...and keep maintain stock price lower the lists from $60 to ->$58. It should worth $12

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Post ID: @cea+VdkroOq

It is typical LE braggadocio -- all spin and little substance. He is probably twisting a tale around the bare metal server or engineered system offerings based on their power, network interconnect or workload isolation. It's likely to be a mix of being naturally narrowly technically accurate, comparing apples and oranges, ignoring the ways in which Oracle's solution is woefully flawed and hoping that his statement serves to generate a marketing stir. LE has been doing this type of thing for years.

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Post ID: @ztf+VdkroOq

A good lie to tell because in contrast to financial disclosure fraud, this one is much harder to disprove in a lawsuit, and hey, if a few analysts believe it even for a short time, so much better.

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Post ID: @khp+VdkroOq

"Oracle is way ahead of Amazon in cloud infrastructure technology"

it means that we have a lot of flly interconnected datacenters. oh, wait, that's not true, sorry.

it means that we have fully aligned and updated systems in terms of patches and security. oh, wait, that's not true, sorry.

it means that we can connect anything to anything inside a datacenter with just a click. oh,wait, that's not true, sorry.

it means we can provision a new service to an existing VM in a click. oh, wait, that's not true, sorry.

it means that the full portfoio of services is available in every datacneter, and you can interconnect them with a click. oh, wait, that's not true, sorry.

it means... ok, I'm tired, the list continues without end.

those bare metal nerds thought that having the newest systems means you have the best cloud. sorry guys, cloud is not like this.

unfortunately LE is old and dumb enough to believe this sh--.

unfrotunately our cloud (maybe excluding Netsuite) is the worse offering you can have in term of security, flexibility and usability, and that's why customers are not using it.

not because they don't want to give a fair shot.

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Post ID: @stq+VdkroOq

That's like saying the infotainment system in a Kia is better than the one in a BMW. That may be a true statement, but it's not compelling enough to trigger buying and usage decisions.

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Post ID: @nbx+VdkroOq

@VdkroOq-lpn and @VdkroOq-ffc:

you are true cheerleaders id--ts, nor knowing what you are talking about.

you can dream as much as you want, customers will never buy cloud services from oracle.

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Post ID: @ulp+VdkroOq

It means Oracle’s cloud infrastructure offering is superior to that of Amazon Web Services.

Amazons offering is clearly inferior. It’s surprising customers aren’t giving OCI a fair shot.

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Post ID: @lpn+VdkroOq

It's not market share...it's technology. Oracle's cloud has better consistent performance, security, network throughput then AWS.

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Post ID: @ffc+VdkroOq

On what basis can he seriously make this claim?

He is a 74 year old technology genius. As demonstrated by his CTO job title.

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