Thread regarding CA Technologies (CA Inc.) layoffs

Valid point or not?

From another post. What say you on this?

Finally, yet another useless group to cut. Broadcom buying CA will be the best thing to ever happen to the company. They actually have the requisite balls to trim all of the fat that's accumulated over the years.

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The pessimistic part of me says that this going to be bad for most US based people.

The optimistic part of me thinks that it can't be any worse than it is already. CA management has ruined the company so maybe Broadcom will save it.

A lot of people might lose their jobs and I am probably one of them but maybe for the people who remain they will have a chance to work for people who aren't id--ts

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Post ID: @dgu+Vi6WCgs

It's true. I'm a support guy. I essentially have 3 managers.

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Post ID: @ohh+Vi6WCgs

I think it's very valid. Take a hard look at CA and you'll easily find many, many people and groups that are essentially filling. How many layers of management are there between the lowest person on the totem pole to the CEO? How many managers hold director titles yet only have 3-4 direct reports? What about all of those incubators that never produced anything of value? What to say about a bloated GIS that still takes weeks to close tickets? What of sales that seems to send their people to expensive conferences and lecture circuits, yet they can only manage to sell renewals by bundling more and more free product?

The list goes on and on. Broadcom just needs to step in and make some tough decisions to cut people who are just not necessary.

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Post ID: @iwb+Vi6WCgs

Fair point I think. I'm incredibly busy all the time, and work lots of extra hours, but if you take a look at what it ultimately achieves I don't think there's much substance. Strangely the only real benefit I add is where I choose to do things outside of what's asked of me. CA has a lot of fluff. Regulatory fluff due to historics, and non regulatory due to decisions being made at high level without understanding of down the line impacts

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Post ID: @rwh+Vi6WCgs

Large portions of support are already effectively outsourced. It's done by partners and contractors anyway.

No enterprise software company survives without it's own services, that is a simple fact. Attempting to outsource services will just hasten the fall of the enterprise software that doesn't get sold off. It's doubtful they will just shut anything down, existing contracts have value to someone, it's all about finding that right someone.

The only potential saving grace is that they do recognize they are in the software business now and aren't doing a good job of it, they aren't maximizing their potential. They could actually let CA sales run things on that side for a little while and determine if it's viable in their model or not. People don't come banging down your doors for software, there are too many players with products that are too similar.

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Post ID: @uea+Vi6WCgs

I think everyone is overestimating their own value and underestimating everyone else’s value. I also think many folks are underestimating the future pain coming.

Digital or not, sales is in big trouble with thre Broadcom model staying we need 30-40 salespeople.

Support is in trouble as all but 10 percent of that function will get outsourced and offshores. Clients will be upset and no one will care unless it’s mainframe. I also believe Broadcom is underestimating software development complexity in general.

We al know the core functions are in trouble. As and as some people think it is, all the support we receive from he core functions will be worst - IT will be unsupported and insecure, benefits will be much worse, getting contracts signed wil be much harder, innovation will be killed and career development will be slowed down unless you want a career in financial engineering.

Engineering is not safe either - dozens of barely profitable products will be shut down, steady state development will be outsourced. New releases will be slowed down unless strong revenue cases will be made. Prices on renewals will be increased for short term profit and the expense of longer term retention.

Those remainin will be reporting to some Broadcom techno bean counter wig no real grasp of software. Go read the articles online from the Broadcom CIO to get a sense where there priorities lay. Or just talk to any of the Broadcom integration folks....shell shocked is the work that comes to mind.

No one in their right mind will want to join moving forward and even if you are a mainframe hotshot IBM or BMC must be much better places to work. The software nursing home was sold to an organ donor company, but the richest patients will be kept on life support as long as possible

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Post ID: @iva+Vi6WCgs

I agree to an extent. I worked for CA in the past and felt that there is lot of importance given to non engineering teams over engineering.Most of that xan be cut and outsourced to service companies for lower prices with better SLA.

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