Thread regarding Whole Foods Market Inc. layoffs

If you had ever worked anywhere unionized you'd know what a f---ing awful thing it is.

Quit, and go to work for Kroger. You'll see.

we have astl’s that have been in that position longer that i have worked at whole foods and still can’t get their stuff together.

all whole foods does is shift astl’s around 1 hour from their home store .

nothing changes they still have their same challenges.

no real training other than fastl.

which only applies if you are friends with the brass.

check their last performance and compare them, they ussually miss labor,margin or slaes but they still get promoted i’ve had conversations with stl’s and astl’s on how it works and they rely on word of mouth not performance.

we need amazon leadership at stores period.

they just promote their buddies and region leadership just plays along since they know all the people on the panel.

that’s why stores look like s—t !

they should be helping stock shelves at stores where due to global leadership store short staffed due to ots and labor cuts!

but that’s why they are office workers and just piint out the things that are wrong since they themselves cannot hang for 1 hour being part of the workforce generating the money to pay their salaries.

they usually take about 6-7 times the amount of time to do task than a regular team member.

Not always true. I work and have worked for companies that have unions. Many managers were fired for stepping out of line with their aggressive and passive aggressive b---s---. As someone in a salary position I too am very careful how I talk and how I hold people accountable. Lose one piece of paper on a corrective action and your a-- is grass.

Unions are barely surviving themselves. Unionizing won't change anything. All unions do is collect dues and give the $$ to their fav political candidate. I've been in a union, it's a waste. Anyone thinking unionizing will do anything more than make a more adversarial relationship between TMs and leadership is deluded.

I haven't had a paid 15 minute break in almost two years. All these SOPs have made simple tasks take 3x longer. We could use a union.

Reality check about the union (UFCW) that so many of you want to embrace.

https://capitalresearch.org/article/alleged-corruption-dogs-the-ufcw/

http://ufcwmonitor.com/are-ufcw-dues-going-to-the-mafia/

Go ahead and trust your voice and best interests to a union...

by the postings posted by other team members i can tell they believe anything told them by their employer.

things were not like this before !

keep it in the favor of the work force remember they cannot opperate with out us!

don’t expect benefits without the work unionize and demand for better wages and benefits!

millenials need to put in the time before giving up don’t expect instant gratification!

things get better the more you push!

don’t believe everything they tell you about unions please look at the video released for amazon workers and union prevention.

it’s all pro amazon and pro customer nothing in the intrest of the workforce.

we need to band together and push foward to keep living wages up (amazon and whole foods fear this) since no one can afford to live in the major cities they opperate without being in section 8, welfare or wic.

they just keep getting wealthier at our cost.

remember the layoff will pass on personal info to companies to find out who posted this.

they gained more by giving employees a pay raise and benefit cuts .

they also lost more than gained.

you really thought the workforce would be om the positive side?

they lost more benefits and bonuses and incentives than gained .

nothing improves without another giving at amazon or whole foods i bet this year whole foods benefits votes cuts something like every year happens!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/story/amazon-minimum-wage-some-fear-they-will-earn-less/amp

Quit your belly aching you got more money it may not be a slam dunk in every city but think about places where the minimum wage is really low. People in Georgia making minimum wage are going to almost triple what they make now.

you can't say F--- unions, because a union is only effective as we want them to be. the involvement of the worker determines decisions and outcomes. i used to work for another company with terrible union representation- but it took really understanding what unions are about to realize that it was terrible because no one cared or was involved.

first and foremost, we would need to negotiate job protection. you say its virtually impossible to get fired these days, but on the other side of the token, i have seen plenty of people (TL, ATL, Buyers) "separated" due to personal/childcare issues, inability to be be FT by giving 100% open availability, health related issues, etc etc. They use this "30 days" method of separation after someone has to step down, that usually finds people scrambling to find a new position within the region or lose your job- while likely taking a significant pay cut. i have seen it happen a number of times.

also, the raise to $15/hr should not be viewed as a gift or a morale booster. the raise was the absolute least they could have done for us- especially considering that the blanketed $15 increase is still not a live-able wage in every city. it also doesn't help that TMs are being told that a lot more is going to be expected of them with this pay increase. thats ridiculous.

the fact is- a union is definitely what we need right now.

A Union is a waste for unskilled jobs like the ones found at WFM. Employees are lucky Wal-Mart did not purchase the company.

Probably union reps just trying to get things moving to take your money.

. Moving to 15 an hour, basically took the only thing a union might try.. yes try to improve. They could try to get better benefits, but honestly for retail the benefits are already good. WFM move there policies years ago bases on the national labor relations board feedback and it is very hard to get fired outside of attendance and verifiable theft or gross mis conduct. People get hurt physically, but not the way cops or firemen or the guys working oil rigs do. Every body has a right to unionize, before making that decision research the benefits of union shop retail or grocery workers.

Right now I'm not sure what union would really do for us. It is nearly impossible to get fired at WFM these days unless you commit a major infraction. Now with a leading minimum, I can't see what they would actually negotiate for us. No, a union cannot stop in-store programs like OTS. They merely "represent" team members in compensation and benefit fairness.

Unions protect the employees, that is what dues are for. Do you think they are going to do it for free? Yes, they also protect the lazy ones, for a time but do they do anything to the lazy ones right now? I have not seen anything happen to the lazy s--- ups in years. But, a union would not allow WFM to abuse us with this OTS/SOP stuff. If we are going to keep it 100, people are working through their breaks and off the clock over all the regions. STL's know this is occurring and are looking the other way because of the pressure they are under as well. A union would stop this ASAP. They would negotiate the labor in the store to a much more fair and do-able target. I didn't think WFM would ever need a union, they always took care of us but JM sold his company and sold us out so now it might be time to take a look at it.

F--- unions they just want to collect your dues and do nothing for you. One way or the other you have no say in the direction of the company.