Thread regarding Lowe's Cos. layoffs

LP Funding Cut

Looks like the LP department has had a massive funding cut.

Changed coming to position soon around February.

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Post ID: @OP+WL6bKkT

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anyone know how they determined which to keep to manage multiple stores?

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Post ID: @3zkyw+WL6bKkT

A lot of speculation.....if you're affected you already know.

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Post ID: @cbgd+WL6bKkT

Potato Brain nailed it

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Post ID: @cbsj+WL6bKkT

One more minute until we all find out the truth on our calls....

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Post ID: @ccmv+WL6bKkT

The LP conference call is scheduled for Friday morning at 9:30am. There is not a LPSM that I know that isn’t nervous or scared about may be coming. Most just hope that whatever happens that Lowe’s give them time like they have the Department Managers and HR managers in the past.

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Post ID: @cabe+WL6bKkT

Not true about lp not eligible for severance. If you pull up the policy you will see there was an addendum that added several job codes to be severance eligible. Lp is S08 which is eligible for severance.

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Post ID: @bwui+WL6bKkT

LPOSM's better go, too.

Policy says we don't qualify for severance because we aren't salary. Hoping Marvin at LEAST takes care of us in that sense.

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Post ID: @bses+WL6bKkT

Do they mean risk level or dollars

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Post ID: @bhzw+WL6bKkT

So how many area Lps are getting cut? No need to have one for every market anymore.

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Post ID: @bspr+WL6bKkT

Yep its true,lvl 5&6 lpm is safe all others are gone. Well folks it was fun while it lasted

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Post ID: @bybt+WL6bKkT

Just got the calander invite

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Post ID: @bdag+WL6bKkT

It is happening. Confirmed by a direct source that was on the call. Loss Prevention will now be Asset Protection. LPSM's in RL 5 and RL 6 stores will remain, all others, including LPSS's, will be eliminated. No other information was given so pay structure and schedule is still uncertain. Hopefully more info will be given on this call tomorrow. PSI's will also go away as the program will be cut.

I am genuinely sorry to anyone this effects or whose future is uncertain. I truly believe that anyone of value will still have a place at this company.

Good luck, and God bless.

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Post ID: @bfzl+WL6bKkT

Just got the Email.. 1030A conference call

Region 27

.. good luck to everybody

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Post ID: @bmlw+WL6bKkT

Haven't received an email.

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Post ID: @bkao+WL6bKkT

Same here

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Post ID: @bitg+WL6bKkT

We got a call at 10:30a Friday. Region 21

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Post ID: @beph+WL6bKkT

Conference Call - Friday Jan 4th - 10:30am EST / 7:30 AM PST.

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Post ID: @bkfg+WL6bKkT

10:30 for east coast. Good luck everyone

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Post ID: @bmhz+WL6bKkT

Just got an conference call appointment from the regional LP for the 4th at 9:30 cst. Region 5

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Post ID: @bwxf+WL6bKkT

When is the call for LP? Time? Have gotten no info about this

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Post ID: @bxsy+WL6bKkT

And who did you hear this from?

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Post ID: @bnql+WL6bKkT

LP Managers at risk level 5 and 6 stores are safe. LP Manager positions in stores for all other risk levels are being cut. All LP Specialists are being cut. An LP "area" team is being formed with the remaining LP, not sure of their responsibilities. Did not hear any news about rotation or overtime hours.

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Post ID: @bfym+WL6bKkT

Places that still have lp in every store:

  1. Target

  2. Walmart

  3. Best Buy

  4. Amazon (location sites)

  5. Kohls (either LPA or LPS)

  6. JCPenney (APA, APS, or APM)

  7. Macy’s

The difference with most of these companies is that they’re mixing them into operations so they can help justify their existence (Walmart apasm now is an ASM, Target ETL used to do MOD shifts, Macy’s is LP and Ops, etc.) I agree with one of the older posts that if lp is reduced it would be going in the opposite direction of the industry.

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Post ID: @bcyu+WL6bKkT

Let's be realistic...if you're trolling please stop it. For some of us, this can and will have a major impact on our lives IF this SM conference all was about the LPs.

IF there are changes coming you can pretty much narrow it down to LPs and/or PSI/PSE

  1. We all know Store Manager roles will remain in tact.

  2. ASMs were just cut 2 years ago. And now they are adding ASMs back into store based on their sales volume.

  3. Service Managers/Support Managers have already been informed about their title change and the company is adding more supervisors into each store.

  4. PSAs have already had their change in December.

  5. Install Sales, they backed off of cutting them when they was suppose to. So they will stay in place.

  6. Sales specialist not going anywhere...who else will push Lowe's sales and programs? The CSAs wont do it.

So who does that leave you with LP and the PSI/PSE program. They just started the latter programs not to long ago.

Lowe's LP department is one of the last LP departments in retail to still have LPs in every store. And they are one of the last one's to still call it "Loss Prevention."

IF a major change is coming and it dont involve LP I'd be surprise. Cut us all at once, I doubt that. Action plan, of course they have one. Store manager's have a mandatory call on their days off? We all know Lowe's take pride in giving their employees their days off. It has to be important

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Post ID: @bxsf+WL6bKkT

So we get released we also lose the bonus we would have received for making inventory so thoughtful

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Post ID: @bwma+WL6bKkT

I am done posting after this... You all can believe this or not. I was on the sm call. It was a briefing call to the sm. This is what I got out of it.

LPM position to be eliminated.

Based on risk level average is how many multi unit positions will be available per market.

Your LPOSM has already chosen who they want to keep as multi unit.

The LPM's who were not chosen will in fact get a severance of 2 weeks per year worked and will be let go Friday.

Good luck.

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Post ID: @bflf+WL6bKkT

Wrong. When AOMs were eliminated, they were told on a conference call. When HRMs got the news, some had meetings, others had conference calls with the HRM and SM in the room. Remote teams with centralized managers often have to handle these things through calls. What, are you going to call everyone to one central location 100 miles from their store, then fire them there? People would riot.

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Post ID: @bphh+WL6bKkT

Was there any indication of any other positions being available besides multi unit ones? Other posters have commented regarding RL 5/6 stores getting to keep one LP. Any other details (this is for anonymous who said they were on call with their SM)

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Post ID: @bujn+WL6bKkT

We dont know what you posted, as your name or any identifier of your previous post is not referred to. Please share.

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Post ID: @bawv+WL6bKkT

I was on the call with my sm. What I stated is what will happen.

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Post ID: @bird+WL6bKkT

You guys are letting "speculations" drive you insane. Nobody in here truly knows. And if there is anyone with a REAL update please let us know. Im sure all of the SMs conference calls are over. Somebody will leak the REAL info in due time. And stop saying LPs would get a severence package. Did the Service Managers get one? NO. They got kept at the same pay for a year then let go. Only salary manager's get those type of deals and its not easy for them to get it. And yall REALLY think if this does have something to do with LP, that Lowe's would cut all of them in one day on the spot... they would be literally asking to get SUED. All we all know how Lowe's feel about gettint sued.

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Post ID: @bwkg+WL6bKkT

"This is a distraction. This is a fire in a barrel. [Throws distraction in barrel] This is a distraction in a fire in a barrel. Any questions?"

Let's just get back to work. We certainly are not adding any value today by trolling these threads.

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Post ID: @buag+WL6bKkT

Team, this is what will happen.

LPM position to be eliminated.

Based on risk level average is how many multi unit positions will be available per market.

Your LPOSM has already chosen who they want to keep as multi unit.

The LPM's who were not chosen will in fact get a severance of 2 weeks per year worked and will be let go Friday.

Good luck.

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Post ID: @bpvi+WL6bKkT

When they announced to change LP's from salaried to hourly in 2011, LP's had to all go to a mandatory meeting then have a one-on-one with their ALPM"s. When they eliminated AOM's, they all had to go to a mandatory meeting. When they restructured in 2017, there were one-on-ones and a meeting. HRM's learned of their future at a meeting. When they announced that all single store LPS's would become LPM's, there was a conference call. When they informed LP's of the AOM elimination, there was a conference call. See a pattern? I doubt they would announce something so life-changing during a conference call. Who really knows at this point what is going to happen. We will have to wait and find out.

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Post ID: @bnpz+WL6bKkT

But it’s not unconfirmed or unreliable.

Evidence 1: Conference calls are going on right now for SMs, explaining the changes to happen tomorrow. Several people on this site and others have confirmed.

Evidence 2: there is only one LP position in the whole company opened in the last 11 days. Compare that to 11 open store manager positions. Which do you think has higher turnover?

Evidence 3: none of the job titles currently posted matter anyway. We’re still posting jobs for service and support managers, even though they’re all supposed to be Dept Supervisors now.

Evidence 4: The last time there was a LP shakeup scare, RLPDs we’re tripping I we themselves to call and reassure everyone nothing was changing for the negative. It still did a little bit, it was the reduction of many stores to a 40 hr LPSM, but they wanted to make sure everyone knew no one was losing their job.

Where is that concern and communication now? Radio silence.

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Post ID: @bils+WL6bKkT

I am only speculating here, but typically when something like this is going to happen, there will be a hiring freeze so that positions aren't filled that will be eliminated. There are still LPSM and LPSS positions being posted. The most recent is a Risk Level 3 in NC (the holy land for Lowe's Corporate and all tests) for an LPSM. I would find it hard to believe that a position would be posted in NC for a RL 3 Store LPSM if they were going to do away with Store LP's below a RL 5. I will say that the company did test a “Senior LP” a couple of years ago and it failed miserably. Those who were in the test positions were absorbed into LPOSM's and Market ORC Managers as those became available. I have noticed a "Marketing ORC Manager" position being posted recently. Current Market ORC Managers are in Department 0805 (same as store LP's). They have a slightly higher salary grade than Store LP's and report to the Regional LPOSD. This new one is in Department 0086 (Corporate LP) with a salary grade E07 (same as LPOSM) and reports to the LPOSM. Not sure what any of that means. Also, yes, the Schedule was changed this week from off Saturday/Friday to Monday/Tuesday and next week it will be Saturday/Sunday instead of Wednesday/Thursday. This is the "holiday schedule" to give LP's New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day off and next week was changed to avoid having to work 7 days straight. I don't believe it has anything to do with wanting LP's in the store on Friday for any particular reason. We also already know that the LP schedule will be changing due to staff meetings being moved to Monday instead of Tuesday. I have also not heard anything about a meeting or call for LP's. Lastly, there is no comparison for LP and ASM being on the "same level." These are two completely different business units with completely different levels of responsibilities. Some LP's are great and add immeasurable value, some LP's are trash, just as the same could be said for HR's, ASM's and SM's and any other position in a store. LP's and ASM's are business partners, working together. The only "same level" for the two is pay and that is mostly just 48-hour LP's. My advice is that you all research any information you can on your own and don't listen to any unreliable or unconfirmed sources.

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Post ID: @bigs+WL6bKkT

I jumped on the call as I know the DM cc code. He knew there was an extra and would not talk and canceled the call lol.

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Post ID: @benb+WL6bKkT

My sm is on a cc from home at 9:30 this morning.

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Post ID: @bnhn+WL6bKkT

we have also been set to change our schedule to work Friday. Haven’t given a time on the call. Not sure what’s happening but been doing this a long time . Something is coming ! Thinking it’s where going salary and we will be over FSAs and Someone else. I think if we where getting cut they would do it off site like they did HRM.

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Post ID: @beos+WL6bKkT

Most of the speculation is accurate. There will be 2-3 senior LP in a market with multi-unit responsibility covering 3-5 stores. Risk level 5 and 6 will keep an in store LPM. Specialists and LPSM at lower risk levels are gone. Main questions will be how long of a transition period, if any, for impacted associates. Multi-unit positions selected based off of performance and offers submitted. No word on whether the in store LP will have to reapply. We have 16 LP in my market, and 11-12 are going to be without a job shortly.

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