Thread regarding General Motors layoffs

They only care if you have credentials

That is a true statement. Perhaps they should be, they offer a higher quality of everything over both salaried and hourly workers. I've seen this in my two dozen years of experience, just among my co-workers. This removes my own experience.

I spoke with a GM talent representative not too long ago, and she was very kind, and allowed me to ask a number of questions in vast details with answers that I won't repeat. In a wrap up, essentially she stated that you could be a gift from God himself, but if you lack a 4 year degree, there's little chance you would be allowed to be hired on through GM policy, even if you work in that VERY role today as a contractor.

These companies chase a piece of paper, and they don't care if you can do the job. They only care if you have credentials. Whether you can provide in the role, is irrelevant.

This was taken from another thread ( @WGlo1n8-5tya ). If any clarification is needed, this post talks about contractors who perform good work but the company won’t hire them due to the lack of a 4-year degree.

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"Degree is a minimum to be hired in. when we get 500 resumes for job, only way to filter the herd is by using these qualifications...

Having a degree and experience in relevant field is required to get a job."

Yet it doesn't define talent nor capability. It is the flaw of the mindless.

Your car breaks down, do you chase the engineer who designed the part, or the lowly auto mechanic that has the skill set to repair your car? Irony much?

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Post ID: @kxdw+WNRcOfg

All you need to know is that things are NOT what they seem. Politics are nothing more than theatrical play, and Mary is nothing more than a puppet. She's simply doing her part.

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Post ID: @5who+WNRcOfg

Hold the phone. You get 500 applicants per job? Something smells Mary and crew told our lawmakers they don’t get applicants in US for jobs so they need to shift work offshore.

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Post ID: @1rub+WNRcOfg

Degree is a minimum to be hired in. when we get 500 resumes for job, only way to filter the herd is by using these qualifications...

Having a degree and experience in relevant field is required to get a job.

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Post ID: @1ffy+WNRcOfg

I too am concerned for many good salaried employees. I am not sure of the criteria this time. Cost (wages); is certainly a factor. Perceived future contributions is also a factor.

In the past I have sat in on meetings where the degree criteria was discussed. The prevailing winds were: having a degree demonstrates the ability to learn new things; demonstrates ability to set and accomplish long term goals; increases the likelyhood of civility and thoughtful engagement; reduces the likelyhood of vehicle keying and fisticuffs in the parking lots; reduces the likelyhood of workplace behaviors for which GM could be sued. There is an exception process for getting non-degreed contractors converted to GM employees. It requires paperwork and doggedness on the part of the hiring manager; most do not bother. Straight hire without first contracting for the manager is virtually unheard of. Most do not want to take the chance of having to get layers of approvals and having the guy not work out.

Have a blessed Holiday break.

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Post ID: @1qrh+WNRcOfg

I have a masters degree and have been in the engineering business for many years. I've gotten great performance reviews and I'm still really worried about being laid off. No one knows what the criteria is for keeping or letting people go.

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Post ID: @1wxe+WNRcOfg

I see my topic was important enough to re-post and copy. One of MANY topics.

They say that the height of reverence is copying those of others.

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Post ID: @cob+WNRcOfg

By their deeds you will know them.

We own five, (5), and yes five american automotive products. If this is their barrier for our colleagues, you can better believe that five, (5), and yes five, foreign products will start to make it to your portfolio in the future to come.

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Post ID: @nrt+WNRcOfg

FCA confirmed this as well. Manager acknowledged that the criteria was a four year, but had to sign off acknowledging that new hire had less credentials, and accepted responsibility. Individual was hired, thorough hoops.

Talent, is not the entry point of sale. A degree is the point of sale, with talent the exception.

Shame.

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Post ID: @tpu+WNRcOfg

This is a true statement. However there are some exemptions. A lack of degree will disqualify you from their standard hiring opportunity, as it is their sole paper barrier of employment. This piece of paper doesn't care whether you can do the job or not.

However, if a manager wants you, this can be a work around, credentials be damned.

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