Ok. Here it is. All store managers have been sent a form where they are to rate all of their assistant managers in multiple performance categories (not a yearly evaluation form, this is different). All of the assistant managers for the entire market will then be banded together in one large pool. These results will then be calibrated. Each manager will fall into low, mid or high category. The low which will be around 20-25% will be terminated and given 60 days pay. For the mid and high, some managers will be allowed to stay in role at their current store and some will be forced to transition to another location. Department manager roles will be given more responsibility and roles combined with some of those positions going away also. Workplace will be tested by additional stores and ultimately cause the elimination of personnel but that layoff will not occur in Feb. New changes to attendance will be rolled out by February. Anyone who feels like this will not happen to me, trust that it will and is happening. Just be prepared and pray for the best. Walmart will also roll out a small pay increase for hourly associates and put the news of that out simultaneously to coincide with the mass manager layoffs to reduce the negative media. Store managers are not being told that the managers that they rank low will lose their job but the majority of managers based on the co manager layoff experience have figured it out at this point and know what is going on.
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I have a question. I do not work for Walmart directly but I am a team lead for a third party on the Walmart remodels. I have held this position for the past 5 years therefore my source of support is directly affected by Corporate Walmart. I recently started with a retail company who pays a little better than the rest whom my colleges or myself have not heard of. We recently have been tasked to do constant performance ratings and P.I.P. every one for the most ridiculous reason and terminate after two P.I.P' s. And it seems this corporate game we play with the Store Planners is an unforseen arm of the corporate agenda bleeding over into my field directly affecting people who do not even work for this Giant. What alerted me to my question is the termanolgy not previously common in my field is common termanolgy I have read in this forum. My question is does Walmart have their own retail company for remodels under an AKA they have recently implamented.?
Walmart deleted department managers position.hiving more work to regular associate's less hours less pay.
What is going to happen to the OGP department manager's?
It's happening at the end of July, now that these employees helped threw coviid 19 apparently there no longer needed. After 20 plus years some may lose there jobs. Great place to work huh
This is happening at the store I work at ...
i left walmart because it s—ed watching all the management in all areas bend then snap with instructions to "let go" employees because of performance issues..and the like of which I would never thought possible: ie: a new employee hired one day...was told to start her schedule the next...and she came to work without a vest to wear because she was not issued one the day before...the asst. manager said where is your vest.. she said she didn't have one. He told her to either go back home the rest of the day or quit. Now that is what i call a fantastic manager! Fired the next day after being fired for not having a vest issued to you.
This girl lived 30 minutes away from the store.. as i also did... and after having her mother be late for work taking her daughter to work that day.. the mother also got into trouble for being late to work at a different job. The young hired girl's car was in the shop because of a flat tire..and would have been coming to work on time thereafter.
The gutless low quality of a human being are the managers that walmart hires..and if they come into the business, they are told to fire as many employees as they can during low customer times.
I too am one whom waited for "any reason" to quit . That day came.
I was told to come to the office for no reason. .. for 25 minutes i was yelled at and told how worthless my job was being performed, and things will have to change....all this while 5 others in my department were gone for the last 40 days, i have been doing their jobs and mine.. and the asst manager didn't even know they were gone!
Another time i was drilled by two assistant managers who quickly started yelling at me for not doing my job the past few days..and that i was being coached for that, and i didnt have a word in edgewise...until one of them paused to take a deep breath, i jumped in and said the reason i didnt do the job was because i was on vacation the last 9 days! They both looked at each other then said ok we are done go back to work.
i eventually quit...because management just tries to cover their own butts. and i had privy of a department manager whom was a friend of mine.. came out of a morning meeting and whispered to me that the meetings have all been about letting go the masses of cashiers and non-essential employees during slow times...he couldn't believe his ears.. and that the managers were praised for having a 75% employee loss in the last month on a seasonal slow time.
He told me he was going to join the Army...at least he was ready for the command of any service to this country..he is prepared for it..thanks to walmart hardening his heart to others.
When i left, it felt like a 100 lb. weight just flew off my chest as i walked out of the last drill my arse
meeting with incompetent management whom are so little in life they have to have those over them
make them into what they are today.....worthless, lazy people who only give a carp about making money. One of these days.. they will be like the following:
Once a manager making 60.000.00 a year this lady i know was cold, heard hearted, and non-human
lost her job...after making my wife cry many times at work and no raises for 8 years...the manager lost her job because of a buy out....that manager now drives a small bus picking up the elderly every day..making less than $15,000.00 a year. Thank you God.. VINGENCE is mine says the Lord. Yes , i let God take care of that person.. i prayed to God to have vingence for me. and boy did he.
How does it feel to be like the rest of we employees of walmart.
As of last week, my wife and i have now started shopping at Aldies... we pay a little more but that is fine.. their meats are sweeter and priced right...as other "fresh" veggies are wonderful...
Milk is cheaper than walmart...we will never go back to walmart ever again..never.
If they treat their employees like little robots.. then they can become another store that vends out products and no one there working except stockers in the behind scenes.
To me; a worthless store is not obliged by my purchases , because i will not visit their stores.. besides....there are too many shootings at these stores..it is not safe to let my beloved wife venture into a walmart alone anymore... i fear being there myself as a man when i am there... where is the good ole K-mart stores anymore... at least they valued my being a customer in their stores..
mr. x
It is official. Every ASM that received a needs improvement or below had been let go. I worked my a– of to get promoted and my a– off to keep it. I’m not a favorite, so it means nothing. 9 years of my time... wasted.
Are they making OGP assistant managers into Coaches?
This role out happened in the store I was working at. If you are not apart of their click you will be terminated. They bullied harrassed and allowed other to set me up for failure which was premeditated. I have never worked with a management team that was this cruel in my entire work life. Shame on Walmart for allowing good people to be put in these positions to where good people loses their jobs that they worked so hard to get.
Just got the news today wm is getting rid of all assistants by March 1.
They need to get rid of them. Now that people lead does scheduling and attendance ASM do nothing , not Even customer service all they do is sit on their butts in the office. Having the support answer ask their calls. That’s not Supports job. That’s why most store look so bad the support is suppose to taking care of the stores returns and zoning but no they have to run around answer manager calls because the manager are to lazy. Yep waste of company money give the supports more money their are doing the job. Get rid of ASMs
Walmart is not what it used to be. We were all told in one group the promise they take care of us after job elimination but they did not. The sad thing is the store manager will make up jobs for the associates who lthreaton law suit and put them in job code to pay then more money but they do not do the job. The honest hard working. Great attendance get pay cuts. I have seen it all in my years. I was harassed and bullied and had witnesses in several occasions and they did nothing. It is all political and the MHRM are getting phone calls or emails and they do not reply. The open door is a joke. If you use it your done. The job elimination are to get the high paid associates out. The associates and asst mgr also get treated like c-ap. I have been in meeting when the manager belittle the hourly associates and nothing kept confidential. It saddens me thgat the company I am working for is this bad. I go home losing sleep on how we are forced to treat people and if your a people person and stick up for your associates or open door on the store manager your on the sh– list. We were told Walmart has the best lawyers and to threaten us not to press descrimination charges but associates are getting smart and recording conversation on how us managers treat them. I am so glad they allow phones. I am not one of those bad managers I am one of the few good ones that keeps praying that Sam Walton family will stop and listen to Sam promises to his associates and go in and fire all the people on top who have not done the job they were paid to do . Why do associates stay at Walmart because in small towns there is no other jobs. That is why managers treat people like c-ap and all Sam Walton believed in has gone out the door. Sad to say but if your job being eliminated get out the promise are a joke. The severance package are also getting smaller. So if your waiting for that it's time your wasting if you get another job. I refuse to be a part of treating hard working employee like c-ap. FYI open door does not work go to the top and email so you have documentation. Document all conversation showing you tried to do the right thing, but be prepared to get retaliated but do the right thing. Sooner or later groups of associates whether they are current or ex associates will seek lawyer once they is enough complaints Walmart will lose. I just don't know how store manager that come to work hating the world are still running stores. Sad for all you Walmart associates.
My husband (ASM) received the news today from the horse’s mouth. Positions are being eliminated. This is a blessing in disguise. If you depend on your position, have a Plan B. It’s happening.
How many years need to pass before you people wake the HELL up. The good old days of Wal-Mart are over. It's all about money now and your just a # to them, get out if you can because it's not going to get any better. Think about it, why is no one talking about the lawsuits that Wal-Mart are paying out on. This is the real truth why they are losing their A–. This is why robot's are replacing people. If they treated employees better, maybe the turnover rate would slow down and shrinkage will go down to.
Just to let Wal-Mart know Wal-Mart employees spend their checks there. Machines do not give you your money back.
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Sorry to inform you but it's all true...already happened/happening at my store. Personnel didnt even find out fron the store manager that one of their positions was going away. One of them stumbled on it on the wire! There will now be a "training coordinator". It will be a one man show. They have combined roles as well, putting more work on receiving and what's left of department managers. The associates that used to take care of site to store? Well that position has now been handed to receiving. They have also downsized the amount of totes that GM claims has as well. Department managers will now be responsible for handling their own claims. GM claims associates will now be in charge of the clearance aisle. CVP items will be put back in their original homes. If they are rearranging and downsizing areas? How much would you like to bet either positions are going away or there will be less hours given to those departments? Hours have already been cut. If cuts hit CO's and ASM's, what makes you think they won't be coming for you next? Wake up or stay asleep...the call is yours to make!
The word is out it came down already that we were to rate all associates as either top 15% Potential Leaders, up to 77% (more likely 70%) rank and file associates who don't want to lead, and bottom 7-15% as Talent Risks. These metrics are still subjective to the managers making the ratings and are not tied to hard data. It has not been said what will be done with the bottom ranking Associates and ASMs but these evaluations are coming by April 1st.
There will be no mass lay-off of Asst Mgrs.
It will come as described through the evaluation process.
If you get a development needed or below standard you will be deemed unfit for the needs of the business and you will be either terminated or go through a PIP (performance improvement plan) process to increase performance within 30 days.
If no improvement the you will be coached or terminated and deemed unfit for the needs of the company.
This way there will be no severance packages paid out.
That is it plain and simple.
Could have been managed differently, this is sad
I read all this and I am so happy I got out of that company. 22 years I was there and each year it got worse and worse. I feel for all of the people who still have to work there. Good luck to you all.
I too feel Walmart is no longer a”family”. The almighty dollar has become the top dog. Old Sam is rolling in his grave. I’m so sorry to see the store that start out as family is becoming corporate mongrul After 10plus years I feel that the almighty $$$ has taken over. It used to be fun to go to work now I dread it but I have to go have a family to support
It’s not points it’s the changing of the rules. It’s a moving target that is continually changed. I bet PTO will be next. Too much time off costing the almighty profits
Some of you posting doubt the truth. Wal-Mart lies and the 6 or 7 figures pawns spit out the propaganda like trained cultus. The last purge of APM’s from small volume stores resulting in me having a 2 hour drive one way to work. I was told if something came up I closer to home I could transfer with no issues. My MAPM verified it and went to bat for when an opening came in the hourly ranks as a DM at the near by store. What happened? My MM and MHRM declined it saying I couldn’t transfer. When I questioned it I was told because managers can no longer step down to hourly roles. I know my MAPM even told them the talking points from the purge said I could. She was taken to task and fell out of good graces and is seeking another job due to the lies told. The rules apply only if you are not in cliques that exist. I heard the phrase the “good oh boy way of doing things is over”. Well it’s not and never will because the ethics team is a joke and does nothing but draw a check.
I heard that may put produce with meat
I dont understand why everyone is so mad about the attendance changes if you came to work walmart wouldnt need to make these adjustments. Everyone that is complaining is most likely at 8.5 or has an attendance problem. Layoffs and bs performance ratings s--- but if you dont like it get out its retail every company will do the same at some point its not that hard to find another job in retail your not working on wall street.
I heard it was 5 in a rolling 6 months period.
We Have Been Hearing A lot of Rumors lately...Ever since before Christmas..About Changes coming down at my SuperCenter...One was about "Cutting Back" Which is Already Happening...& Next Month in Feb.We will no longer able to get 9 occurences in 6 months ....But 3 in a Year.....Walmart is really going to the Dogs...I've worked for Walmart 15 yrs & It is Nothing like it was When I started.....I No Longer Feel like I am in a Walmart Family....
Ask Lowe's how this moved worked out for them, went in this direction two years ago and still trying to recover.
They are trying to reverse the move now. It's too late.
I am sad to hear this OP. My store closed a few months ago, Edna, TX - a big hit for the community - 100+ jobs lost. It was a good store... Here is the obituary:
https://www.thestoreclosing.com/s/walmart-in-edna
@6tcj you are not right. I've been on this website since 2016 and EVERY SINGLE TIME rumors that get traction here (e.g., the ones that have a lot of discussions and replies and sources) have turned out to be true. Every. Single. Time. Now you can chose to believe what the management tells you (all is fine, keep working, don't worry) or you can chose to exchange info with others and analyze if it's reliable or not.
Granted, you cannot believe everything you see here but if you see a discussion with thousands of people participating, there must be something there. If you see a random troll post saying the world will end tomorrow and there is no other info, you'd want to ignore that for sure. Again, a couple of years on this site and I can tell you it's useful.
The questionnaires came out 2 months ago for store managers........
Lol it probably took him longer to write this than it did to come up with the story.
Imagine DM's being told they are going to have more responsibility than they already do......
Now imagine telling ASM's they are losing 25% of their force AFTER assuming more responsibility not even a year ago when they cut Co's. Yeah......no.
This is all garbage........
Awww LOL AP world you must be one of those ASMS wandering throughout the store trying to figure out what to do with yourself. LOL I never said that we weren’t on the chopping block. If you go back and read my post you will see that I specifically stated that APMs were. No need to go over the integrated technology aspects as anyone who works for this company already knows how to use each and everyone of them. Alllllll I’m saying is that if we are taking the bottom 20% and termating ASMS, my market will have all APMs standing because we are the strongest in each store.
@AP World
AP ASMs should be worried more than ASMs. They've already eliminated the APM role in lower volume stores, have attempted to integrate them into the ASM aspect and they're still falling short.
With the creation of AP Hub, Grid tasks, changes made to APA expectations, OBW, Secure, schedule right, inventory flow processes, etc. there isn't a need for most APMs or ASMs. Majority of the tasks on the grid board the APM used to review -- thats placed onto the managers now. IRRs used to have training classes, now its so simplified, a pre-schooler could understand it. As for internals, data mining the front end with secure is beyond ridiculously easy. Before you had to go through accounting reports daily, not anymore. Everything has become streamlined, there is no need to have most AP ASMs. I could very easily see the AP ASM position get dissolved into an existing role.
I figured this was coming because of what happened last year. Honestly that's a big part of why I enrolled back into school to become a nurse. I've been an assistant manager for 3 years and at walmart over 5. In my opinion, there are going to be good and bad managers everywhere at every level, but in my store personally there is a tremendous amount of favoritism. Certain ASMs are expected to do a lot more than others, who are clearly performing badly. Walmart is definitely not appreciative of the hardworking employees or hours sacrificed to still be considered a below standard employee.
To the high paid SM or MM who replied “ where do you people come up with this” We come up with it from history? CMs, Invoice, APM becoming nothing more than an ASM. You are diligently justifying a company that has lost its soul in the name of profits and the god of greed.
Your comments on AP ASMs is a good point however during the Sam’s purge APM’s were eliminated and thrown into a pool were MMs were given the authority to move and replace hard working managers because of their biases. Your future could be in the hands of a egotistical MM.
Before you read this I am not trying to offend anyone. This is only my opinion. I am responding to a comment about how hard ASMs work. I have worked AP my entire 7 year career at Walmart. Started out a floor walker for a year then promoted to APM. ASMs in my store and my market do absolutely nothing but create their own problems. They don’t follow up to their areas or do anything besides open cages and take complaints.I do not want anyone to lose their job or position but ASMs have been giving AP a bad rep since I have started at this company. In my opinion, I know several APMs that do 100 times more than an ASM in any given day. Should we be surprised that they are downsizing ASMs? Not really. ASMs have been wanting us to be equal for years, going back to when we changed our schedules and no more holidays off. It was total BS. Now I understand we are probably on the chopping block too but one thing this company knows is that they can rely on APMs for anything! We are the bridge of trust in each store.
Wish the Trion Ga Walmart could order to fill there outs, do u not realize they are out on the shelf because those items sell. They have way too many assistants.