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Only the Cisco way is deemed acceptable

I’m a new mid-career employee with extensive experience, and I would say I’m overly reliant on the folks who have been at Cisco longer, for a few reasons. Cisco has no discernible processes or procedures, but “leadership” insists that everything be done the way they’ve always done it. I can accomplish most projects or tasks I’m given in any of several (often more efficient and more effective) ways, but only the Cisco way is deemed acceptable. And without documented policies, processes, management systems, or training programs, there’s no quick way for new hires to build the institutional knowledge needed to be effective. These challenges are then compounded by the attitudes of the Cisco lifers who would rather rant about the incompetent external hires than help us adapt and come up to speed. Cisco’s culture, organizational structures and business practices are unique — and not in a good way. Anyone with years of experience at larger and more progressive tech companies will need help assimilating. So Cisco will need to learn to provide better support for external hires, or continue the incestuous internal hiring that got it to the current state of dysfunction.

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I spent a decade at Cisco. This statement is 100 percent accurate. The lifers are a big problem. Middle aged white males with big fat bellies from all those years of dinners, drinking, and sitting around complaining! Very little in the way of skills! Praying they don’t get riffed next.

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Post ID: @5ofx+WX7nm8z

I found this quora thread reply by Tony Li himself in response to how csco is as a place to work :)

https://qr.ae/TUn2ZA

What is it like to work at Cisco?

Tony Li

Tony Li, former Cisco Fellow at Cisco (2010-2013)

Answered Mar 27, 2014 ·

Do you dream of sitting on endless conference calls? Working with people who are promoted well past their capabilities? Struggling with antiquated technology and no hope of innovation?

If so, Cisco is the place for you.

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Post ID: @3edu+WX7nm8z

There may be working pockets of excellence where lifer tech leads still know the ins and outs of the code. But generally such people have left for better pastures or been laid off.

Whats taken over dev is a swarm of mediocre managers and directors external hires who never wrote one line of csco code but good at talking big and running endless meetings. They have all hired their cronies around them. Just listen to a all hands and compare to the leaders of 15-20 years ago, those people had some stature.

Bangalore site is in that condition now - Half dead due to these mediocre leaders. I guess the usa/canada will also plumb similar depths its a company wide issue.

Doing away with 360 reviews from 2014 has facilitated the destruction of quality in managers ( all they need is butter up the director ) - people deal - give the guy a nobel prize

Somehow the schemers and boot lickers always find a new lateral move when things get hot after their mess ups. A few i have seen get promoted for failure. Their inbreeding network is very strong.

Like a python they have choked the life out of csco.

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Post ID: @3lns+WX7nm8z

To be more fair, there used to be a LOT of documentation about processes. But Cisco went through several technologies, mainly to “eat our own dog food”, and each transition resulted in lost documentation.

Some teams are better at on boarding new hires than others, so it’s not all bad. It may vary by team or by country, I can only speak to what I’ve seen & experienced.

The latest transition to some IBM platform was a mistake. Now you can’t find anything. All my years of collected bookmarks to documentation are rendered trash. And some of the “new” pages have links that result in “Document not found” errors. Now Cisco lifers are struggling on how to do things they only do a couple of times a year instead of tasks they do daily.

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Post ID: @2aok+WX7nm8z

Harsh, but fair.

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