Thread regarding General Electric Co. layoffs

Jordan Peterson on HR Departments

My personal opinion is that Jack Welch putting HR in charge of GE was his biggest mistake. Late in his tenure he realized that holding managers to numbers had reached it's end and decided to make his next set of promotions and demotions based on Cultural Values as scored by HR. He then put HR in charge of the succession process thus cementing his mistake. The idiocy of Beth Comstock et. al. just follows as a matter of course.

Here is what Jordan Peterson (of internet fame) has recently said,

COWEN: If we turn to senior management of large American companies, as a class of people — and I know it’s hard to generalize — but what do you see them as just not getting?

PETERSON: I would caution them not to underestimate the danger of their human resources departments.

COWEN: Say more.

PETERSON: Yeah, well, because I see that the social justice etiology that’s destroyed a huge swath of academia is on the march in a major way through corporate America. And if the corporate people think they’re immune to it, they’ve got another think coming. It’s not like they’re any smarter than the universities.

COWEN: And who gave the HR department so much power? How did that happen? What myth did we follow that led us wrong?

PETERSON: That’s a good question because they had virtually no power to begin with, right? HR departments have always been underpowered, so to speak.

COWEN: Sure, of course.

PETERSON: Yeah, well, all of a sudden now, they’ve become ethics departments. And people who take to themselves the right to determine the propriety of ethical conduct end up with a lot more power — especially if you cede it to them — than you think. And that’s happening at a very rapid rate.

The doctrines that are driving hiring decisions, for example — any emphasis, for example, on equity, or equality of outcome — it’s unbelievably dangerous. You don’t just pull that in and signal to society that you’re now acting virtuously without bringing in the whole pathological ideology.

And look out when you do, because it’s like, there are elements of it that are extraordinarily old, and that would be the resentful element in terms of patterns of thinking. But the collectivist ethos is very, very attractive to people, so you have to be very careful of it.

Having HR decide what GE should look like is the root of all it's problems. The actor-managers, the superficiality, the inability to asses technical issues, etc. etc. is because that's what HR wants.

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Ain’t that the truth. Most HR folks at GE don’t know Jack about business and have their ivory tower leadership principles. Hey, they know leadership, they read a book on it!

I have seen such Tom foolery with some of our HR “leaders” from sleeping around to hiding gifts for employees so they could have them - no idea how some of them have a job, let alone SPB or EB!

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The attack vector was three-pronged:

  1. CEO/BOD (ego/greed)

  2. HR/culture (arrogance/ignorance)

  3. execution ("short term-ism"/organizational ADD)

All played a major role in the company’s demise.

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@XChZ2qa-3zyy:

Don't go claiming Peterson and his ideas for your own warped cause. He abhors identity politics in all forms including pro-lifers, KKK and NRA worshipers. A nut-job like you, calling for civil war, has no business saying that "Jordon Peterson is exactly correct."

You haven't a clue.

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Post ID: @XChZ2qa-5evd

That was the point of forcing the head of engineering to lay off one of his CE's. There will be no civil war. HR has the last word. If GE goes down HR will be in charge all the way down.

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Post ID: @XChZ2qa-3wsm

Jordon Peterson is exactly correct. Social justice warriors - who care only about identity politics, diversity & inclusion and equality of results - will destroy this country. They will also bring about a brand of socialism that will make the Nazis of Hitler look like boy scouts. Mark my words - this country will be destroyed within 10 years by the social justice warriors unless there is a civil war to wipe them out.

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One reaps what one sows

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Post ID: @XChZ2qa-2vbk

@XChZs2qa-1glb you're not supposed to notice that GE management is held accountable to people of the opposite ___ . They dislike assertiveness and brought the most assertive one, the lamma, to heel by forcing him to lay off his materials CE.

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Post ID: @XChZ2qa-1wss

If you want to know why GE culture is the way it is then look no further than the opinion of HR.

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Post ID: @XChZ2qa-1tbu

Women love smiley BS artists.

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Post ID: @XChZ2qa-1glb

GE(HR)=SJW=0

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Post ID: @XChZ2qa-1bye

Amen OP!

The impact of this minion force, directed by the immoral behavior of the legal organization, may in time prove to be the largest mistake this company ever made. This and a few other misguided initiatives by the “best-in-class” leadership drove the ship onto the reef. If LC does not set fixing these cancers with a sense of urgency then he is only slapping lipstick on a pig… in the end.

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