Thread regarding Allstate Corp. layoffs

This will not work long term

Allstate has been making sure to lay off older employees who earn more and replace them with younger people with no experience and barely any knowledge - which is great for savings I guess, but it's not doing any favors for the company long term.

You can't expect to replace loyal employees who cared about their jobs with people who don't care what they do and how they act because they don't plan to stay here anyhow. The lack of professionalism they are displaying is astounding but not unexpected.

I'm guaranteeing you, this will cost Allstate much more than they are saving in the short term.

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I’m not saying they’re not centralizing functions/roles that don’t make sense. Of course they are. It’s a publicly traded company with an obligation to its shareholders to operate in the most efficient manner. And yes, that may mean they only need 3 employees for work that once took 4 (efficiency gain), but someone is going to do the work of those 3, in a centralized location. I’m also sure some non-customer facing roles have been outsourced/offshored, but for the jobs that remain, the work needs to get done, which means replacing people.

This country has unprecedented levels of low unemployment......almost full employment. To stay in a job your miserable in doesn’t make sense.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1Auul

This thread is absolutely hilarious! Sad part is the retired individual didn’t retire from the same Allstate we work for. I am still here sitting in misery and hating my job only because I can’t find anything else! They treat us like trash and are steadily lying about us centralizing! The Nevada office is closing in a few months and you bet your bottom dollar Ut and Ok are both next. I’m sick of the lies about Chandler, Irving, and Charlotte are expanding but it’s not claims. Well if this is the case.....WTF are these damn jobs?!? Thousands of new positions in 3 locations??? Allstate has went to hell in a hand basket and no one cares.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1Ayhz

Do you really believe a company like Allstate could/would “lay off older employees and replace them with younger, newer employees “ ???? I’ve been involved in more than a couple re-organizations and job reductions over the years, and you have no idea how many checks and balances there are to ensure no group (particularly a protected class, meaning any employee over 40 !!!) was “adversely impacted”. There are multiple reviews of the assessment methodology, and countless reviews of impacted groups. Do you really think they’d risk a class action litigation ???

Yes, some functions are centralized, and no, those impacted employees are not always offered opportunities in roles they have no knowledge of or experience in. That’s called business. I’ve also seen circumstances where we did allow impacted employees to take on a different role, IF THEY FIT IN THE SALARY BAND for the role. They’re not going to pay someone $80k to perform a $40k job.

You don’t have a clue how these things work. Too bad it took you 7 years to leave a job you were miserable in. I’m sure it was reflected in your work product and to our customers.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1wyhr

I can confirm that Allstate as recently as 2012 still engaged in the practice of laying off older employees to replace them with younger new hires. I was one of the new hires replacing people being laid off at the beginning of 2012 in an MCO. They billed it as a "job centralization" and the department was moving to a new state. Yet at the same time they hired approximately a dozen new LDU employees rather than reassign the old employees who's jobs had relocated. It was extremely awkward in the transition which overlapped by a few weeks to have to sit with them to learn about total loss claims, all the while knowing we were taking their jobs, (albeit in a "different department".)

After 7 years of dealing with the lies I left last year. I couldn't stomach reducing peoples medical bills to 2x medicare rates with no basis for it. It was a clever way to engage in pure unadulterated collateral source without having to admit it.

I have enjoyed every second of not being there since my departure. Now I hear that more centralization is going on into "hubs" and that the Las Vegas MCO has been closed and the OK MCO is soon to follow. (I'll admit that is only hearsay at this point and I have not verified that first hand, which is actually why I found this page.... trying to verify it.)

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1wllt

Yes, you’re quoting a 1995 article on a training that went for 4 years and ended in 1993 (26 years ago !!!!) which company publicly acknowledged was a mistake, which is why they terminated the vendor.

Let’s see, since most of the senior leaders in the company have been retired FOR DECADES and we’ve had multiple CEO’s in the interim, by all means, educate your former co-workers on something that occurred over a quarter century ago, as a reason to not work there.

And you call me dumb. Before you attempt to “educate “ someone on a subject you’re ignorant of, learn to spell. It’s painful to try to follow your posts.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1fyzr

@XdrYbnS-1acse

Hey dumb a-- ur so stupid I will educate you. Your welcome. U need to look into meds btw If u t literally this stupid about reality :

https://apnews.com/4b8215228644891ba3f28c5165365212

It scares me that people before and working with me are completely oblivious to history and corporately r----ded. It’s ok, I’m here to help you.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1fftr

You do know it’s against company policy to use d--gs in the workplace, right ?

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1acse

@XdrYbnS-19vzd

“Retired leader” did you retire before OR after Allstate thought Scientology and the galactic empire of Xenu was great marketing plan? I bet you thought that was fantastic too when HO rolled that out.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1alqn

@XdrYbnS-19vzd

I agree you are dumb and naive.

Rest of my arguments you gave blanket rebuttal with no evidence. Don’t go away mad just go away lulz.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-1azlm

If you think lay off’s or office closings can come close to impacting the stock price, or move the needle on ou bottom line, you’re more naive than I thought, and don’t understand the numbers that influence our stock price.

As far as “targeting California “, absolutely, it was the right decision to vacate the state. Yes there were several large adverse class action news, and yes, the litigious environment was a big part of the decision. The only insurance companies still handling claims there are the domiciled carriers.

Yes, I’m the dumb and naive one. If only you had a clue.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-19vzd

KEY TERM: "retired"

You have no idea what current work culture is like with opaque Market Relativity Ratings, freezes, rollbacks, and layoffs/relocations daily. The current C-level exec are hatchet men beancounters who have stock options and with each closing announcement their eyes light up looking at their puts and calls. People do not feel valued or appreciated as Allstate employees, but I admire my peers who continue to work hard above and beyond with no positive incentives or feedback to do so vs just phoning it in to collect a paycheck. My peergroup is more professional than the leadership now at Allstate.

Cant target groups? Wow they sure got rid of all of CA after their lawsuit where the employees prevailed re: workload for employees and the FLSA attempt to circumvent overtime. Im glad your retired cause your are clearly naive, a company yes man, or just plain dumb.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-19hqh

Have another beer? No thanks but up your meds.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-14ztt

What a whack job. Have another beer.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-updj

Is this a bot roflmao it’s same post from other thread! This is as bad as company intranet with its inane bs. Glad u retired stay there u made it not because of any special skill but TIMING : golden age of Allstate Enron tech Corp orgies and trips and kick offs and throwing money around and now rest of us who are killing ourselves are because of pissant managent for multiple years. Thanks baby boomer you c-apped out gov debt to us. So save your economic pontification stfu and go enjoy your golden years yes I eny u coming up in company that had head up a-- for decades and now suddenly is panicking and sh--ting on all true workers.

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Post ID: @XdrYbnS-pajl

I’m a retired leader who was involved in multiple headcount reductions. If you believe the company “targets” highly paid, tenured employees, you’re mistaken and probably naive. There are multiple layers of lawyers and HR people who scrub the impacted employee profiles, including a thorough “impact analysis “, that looks for impacted employees in potentially “protected “ classes, which includes older employees. From a Claim Dept. perspective, it’s a highly tenured group of employees in certain roles, and it’s going to be skewed towards tenured employees. (unless the impacted groups are Express or entry level claim handlers, which is rare).

Technology advances, artificial intelligence and real estate consolidation all lead to efficiency gains, and the need for fewer people. It s---s if it’s you, and they may regret some decisions, but they don’t and can’t target employee groups, even if a misguided leadership group wanted to.

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