Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

@Y1VjI9H-1sez has the right idea. I do this. No one questions your phone in your pocket or by your pen and paper. Remember this is how some of the s-x abusers have been caught when the abused has recordings of their sh--ty behavior

I can believe it. I know of one woman that had been at Oracle since her old company's acquisition; her husband had gotten a terminal diagnosis and all of a sudden she was laid off. The team was slowly disbanded, but we all questioned why SHE, in particular, was laid off. We all think it was due to her husband's illness. I'm sorry to hear this, but not surprised.

HR is just a puppet in Oracle and they never help any Egg, they are here to help Managers/Directors/VP.

There are a few things with this if true. It is illegal to fire someone over depression if they are still performing their work. The reason the person was let go needs to documented. I would send an email to the manager asking if they were let go from their depression. If they said it, no offence the India people arent the greatest on being pc, so they might actually even say it in an email. Either way if you weren't happy at Oracle maybe it is for the best anyway. Positive Spin lol

Document everything with date and time the manager does to use against him, the manager needs to go now! I had a friend who documented everything at work and we did not even have a problem - smart guy.

Record the abusive manager and send to HR anonymously from library computer.

If no action let them know will send to newspapers. That is a horrible manager, I have seen senior design engineers fired for that behavior in the US.

HR WORKS FOR THE COMPANY NOT YOU - NEVER FORGET THAT!!!

The management in India is sick.

This is more of a cultural thing, nothing Oracle specific. As someone who worked here in India for 4 large US based companies, I'd say there is almost no difference between them. The workplace in India needs to evolve as the culture is stuck in the 20th century - it's almost given your environment will be psychologically abusive. Smaller firms can be better, but many are actually worse.

I can totally believe this. As I have got depressed after joining Oracle 3 months back. The management in India is sick. They shout and scream at work, in meetings. Talk in Hindi, Telugu in a team meeting. Every meeting my India manager forces us to play some sh--ty games like paper toss, mafia, etc. and wasting 2 hours. Then after 2 hours (which includes lunch break), asks the status of the work, which was given in the meeting before all the games.

In my 3 months, I have seen employees being treated like sh--. Manager randomly shouts if the work is not to his satisfaction. In a meeting, he used works like f--- you, this s---s, Hindi abusive language. Manager is indian who is working from USA.

I informed this to HR, who say, he is a director and a growing leader, we should give one more chance to him. What chance ? I was shocked when the indian HR said this.

Now I have resigned, but they have yet confirmed. Manager is not responding. HR is in "I don't care" mode. One of the employees tells me, they want to use you for layoff. But isn't it against the company policies, when employee has resigned like 2 weeks backs ? Anyways layoff means I get a month of two salary extra, so why cry about it.

All I can say is, I would never ever want to return to this company.

I'm not surprised by any of this. Remember that HR is there for the managers and the company - not the employee.

As for the EAP, I never used it because I could never be sure the details would leak back to HR or managers. You need to treat them all like the enemy.

Oracle is always very careful not to leave evidence traces when it comes to HR matters and give managers training on the subject. The best thing to do is get the heck out of there.

Android has a nice record application, I will be sure to use it from now on.

HR is just a puppet in Oracle. It is like providing unruly leaders with arms & ammunitions, and so u see leaders like Book Haram rising.

EAP & other helpline numbers, survey feedbacks, complaints to HR.. All this sh-- is only on paper, for Oracle to portray itself as employee friendly org. All these get reported to ur line mgr directly, who knows then what to do next. Its all Nazi style. Not at all surprised to hear this case.

Oracle = Dickens England, ie a slavery state

" In a layoff situation, the people you work with are not your friends, they are your competition."

Sad, but true.

Yeah, it seems more likely there was someone on the team who gave them the information.

Don't confide in anyone. In a layoff situation, the people you work with are not your friends, they are your competition.

I've never heard of this, but just wanted to say it is a very disturbing story and I thought EAP stuff was private. Are you sure this friend didn't confide in someone else on the team who then told the VP? There might have been some backstabbing going on. Without a recording of the VP saying that the person doesn't have a case.

More info to get everyone to record everything!!