Thread regarding Nationwide (Insurance and Financial Services) layoffs

“200ish” of 1,100 IT infrastructure resources are about to go through layoffs in Columbus Ohio. Afterwards they will creat 3-5 AVP positions...

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Just announced the creation of two new AVP positions.

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-2Xgrj

These jobs weren’t just in Columbus, they were also in Des Moines, IA. Whereas Columbus NWers can go to Chase and a series of other larger companies in the area, Des Moines is a little more limited.

My team was in both locations, but I left before this last round of layoffs and there were 120 people on my team when I left and now there are about 42.

I also know of multiple other teams that had heavy impact and I’m about 80% sure that the actual people volunteering to quit, quitting out of fear, and being laid off far outnumbered those on their projection list (even without those who left out of fear).

But hey, all is fair game when you’re “harvesting jobs for the future,” right?

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-20kdj

I really disagree with the comment of “too many people doing jobs which aren’t required.” I don’t know what department you’re in or who you are, but I was in IT at NW for 5-6 years and have only been gone a year and still have friends in different areas from Tier 1 Helpdesk, to specialized Tier 2 support, Tier 3 I&O, etc and worked with Claims IT for the first few years...

These people are OVERWORKED. On the front lines, I hear hold times are sometimes HOURS now, there are hundreds of tickets coming in that can’t be handled easily, contracted SLAs are suffering, people are working sometimes 80 hours a week or in-call 24/7 without breaks because their teams have been reduced so heavily, shoot... I know people who now have both physical and mental health issues because of the stress of their job and the constant fear that they aren’t doing good enough and may lose their job.

And the Claims department has been reducing adjusters for YEARS who have had ridiculous workloads and often unable to keep up. Now, there are even less of them which’s means the customers, who have lost homes, cars, businesses, and even lives are being impacted by NW’s inability to provide them adequate service during the times of their lives they need it most.

Sure, there are areas where people seem to just be doing busy work, but it’s in a lot less areas than one would think and certain fewer IT and Claims areas. Like, maybe in those departments where they all sit around trying to think up new processes to increase the complexity of work vs reduce it... yeah... those people could be getting laid off instead... there are FAR too many of them and they have nothing better to do than sit around and watch people’s every move and determine how to make their work more difficult to complete.

So, I suppose I have a totally different view...

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-20mhb

Our team will be notified tomorrow.

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-14fog

I worked at Nationwide for nearly two decades, and know they've been doing shadow layoffs for years. Terminations thinly disguised as performance concerns that don't stand up to scrutiny. A refusal to replace FTEs who leave voluntarily. A preference to use contractors, interns, and H1B (ie, indentured) labor. The atmosphere turned overtly toxic after Jurgenson left -- which roughly coincides with the buyback of publicly traded NF shares -- but who knows... maybe it was there all along, just better hidden.

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-13gkz

I keep hearing 20%.... Employees to be let go will be announced this week - June 25 - 29.

NW let go of a large percentage of IT support about 10 years ago... When they couldn't keep up with the workload, many, if not all of the numbers let go were rehired.

It's been a frightening place to work for a long time. New infrastructure only looks bad for most employees.

Many offices and parts of the business have been shrinking for years.

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-13zyj

They (Upper management) is betting the farm on "The Cloud"

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-Jkie

They're cutting our team 40%. So even if you make "the cut," you have 40% more work to do.

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-Hxhy

It is sad people are losing their job. Having said, let us be honest, there are too many people doing a job which is not required. I know all are busy but most of it is not necessary.

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Post ID: @YG8uZY6-eguk

The 200 number is accurate. The 3-5 AVPs jobs created is not.

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