Thread regarding Ford layoffs

The train has passed for the Boomer and older Gen-X folks . . . we had a rather large group of management retire a year or so ago (1 LL2, 2 LL4, and 6 LL5). Aside from the LL2, every position was filled by someone well under 50. And in the meetings I attend for "mobility" type projects, nearly all the LL6 and LL5 are in their 30s. Times are definitely changing.

Millennials get hired into Ford because mommy and daddy draw a paycheck at ford — there I fixed it for you.

Millennials get hired into Ford because mommy and daddy work at ford

Dude it is the fault of the hiring and firing process, designed by consultants and implemented by HR, gamed by career politicians. It is not a generation issue it is a Ford issue.

Once upon a time the point of the interview was to see if the interviewee had the skills, aptitude, and tempermant to do the job. Now it which applicants can game the interview process. People get ahold of the behavioral questions before the interview memorize answers and they are in. Hiring managers can select who will interview candidates. How do I know? Because I have been both hiring manager and interviewer many times. Most times you trust the hiring manager. Once I did not. The interviewee was a known certified axxhole (contractor) so I altered the questions, yet the interviewee was answering the questions I did not ask, he failed the interview, the hiring manager was livid, after all he had provided the interviewee both the questions and answers. I still think I did the right thing that day, even though I continue to pay the political bill. It was the last time I interviewed for other hiring managers.

The firing process is so onerous that few managers will spend the time on it. Instead they pawn off the problem employees onto other managers or just let the employee sit and do nothing. It takes two years to terminate an employee. I have done that once, with an entitled employee. I do not want to ever do it again. The interesting thing was that all of the marginal employees quickly became model employees once the problem employee was terminated.

So millennials who are in a work group where the majority of the old timers are just sitting doing nothing. You now know why. Old timers wondering how we hire a “expert java programmer” who thinks javac is a hybrid language of both java and c. You now know why.

Still not seeing what millennials bring to the table.

Why don't we stop b--ching about these "groups" of people by fueling stereotypes? Time to just support each other and hope for the best. I know plenty in both categories that work their butts off and I know plenty in both categories that don't. People have have their own work ethic, no matter when they were born. Stop arguing about it. We are all in this together.

@YRRdpVL-tel is absolutely right. Whats the matter Millennials, are you too delicate to take some criticism from someone who has been doing this longer than you have been alive?

I'm a tail end baby boomer and have not had the same experience with millennials. I'm not sure it is fair to generalize by generations. Just my opinion.

Millennials work?

I can tell all the "millennials" that are responding don't like the truth that you have to work for your money and not get everything handed to you. Most young people think they should go straight to being upper management without being in the trenches and actually learning the business. The younger generation needs to realize the best place to learn is in the plants and then going to wherever they want to go like engineering. They need to learn the product. I agree that some of the upper management needs to go back to the trenches again but the younger generation just think they should go straight to the top.

Jimmy Furniture is the best of both worlds. He's a boomer who demands $17 million in pay to talk that hipster millenial slang about connected cities and mobility without actually doing a thing.

Did you think the other companies did not want to hire them?

@YRRdpVL-pux Want to get big bucks... don't want to do anything... Hmmm why does that sound so familiar....I'll ask our management team full of zero millennials why it sounds so familiar.

Maybe they can consult their various good ole boys clubs and do some discussions or hire some consulting firms to figure it out..

The "Millennials" don't want to work. I've had one here and gave him work to do and he did it all wrong. I even said if he had questions, let me know and he didn't. I also gave him a project to do that he sat on until I pushed him and basically did it for him. I know when I started, and even now, when I have a new position, I want to learn everything I can. Now a days, the millennials want to get big bucks but don't want to do anything.

@YRRdpVL-pdl Found the entitled babyboomer. Also, remember that none of the management are millennials so maybe Ford needs more millennials since the previous generations are obviously driving everything into ground with their failure to adapt to changing markets.

I tell ya, those gosh darn pesky millennials caring about fair pay, work/life balance, and not destroying the environment.

We’ve seen millenials join after seeing how some cool tech places work. At least Ford has some work life balance

I have observed that the only millennials that stick at Ford are the ones who don’t want to do much work. The smart, innovative ones move along after they figure out what Ford is really about. Most of those exit in under 3 years. Ford is so screwed up that they treat most FCG like secretaries and coffee gophers instead of giving them meaningful work and mentoring them. The supervisors ask for FCG to make themselves look good on PR but don’t really want them.

Ford is where innovation dies, I have observed the Ford machine consistently drive away talent. Ford truths do not align with reality. Guess we need to slap some more posters on the walls.

Maybe we are better of without “Millennials” until they get a bit older, get some experience, and lose the entitled b---s---.