Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

Agree with all, Young kids fresh out party/daycare college/and liven free at home under Mommy and Daddy's purse strings are now management." But are quick to run to daddy and his friends if you say anything bad against them, "But think they can rule the world "Our JOBS ". I have drawn pictures of some problems, Explained areas of weakness, showing areas to push growth. Only to be pushed aside, Yet, above there age with experience within the company. You know you work for a dysfunctional team when all the players are under-trained distracted money hungry fools." People should know if you die above a gold mine they will move your dead body to take the gold."

This thread is going off the rails.

Yeah sometimes I think people have a misunderstanding between train employees and mechanical employees. The employees in the right job make 90 plus a year 8 hours with decent off days and all the holidays. Now train crews make a lot more but they give up a lot for this money. It's a trade-off. so I know the railroad is horrible for some it's still a good job. I've been around it for 30 plus years never laid off never miss a paychecks even when I was off sick for 6 months. I like that every year there's a new Wizkid new programs. Every February there's something new we have to do implement. Everybody pull their hair out for few months but by summer when you got to move how hours and you got to move train all that s*** as work by the wayside. Just wait guys this too shall pass.

Yyy again. I can use my vacation whenever I want as well. When you have an in demand skill set and do your job without complaining or needing supervision management tends to work with you.

Yyy here. I work agreement m-f 7-3:30. weekends and holidays off. Definitely not over worked either. If I feel they start treating me bad or overworking me I’ll go elsewhere. I have the knowledge and ability to work outside of this place.

@yyy so you enjoy being overworked, underpaid, having no life outside of work, no sick time, canceled days off, and being on call 24/7/365? If so then why even post here?

YYY- maybe UP’s HR does a poor job of scouting talent? Sounds like a failure on UP upper management’s part. Typical.

As a former manager, I will say that the original poster nailed it. Here's a little about why you see so many managers:

The idea behind continually hiring new managers straight out of school is a brilliant exploitation tactic. UP knows very well that 5/10 won't be there in a year and 8/10 won't be there in three years. UP knows they won't learn anything. UP exploits this by chasing downward on starting salaries ($70k a year on average) and offering benefits that they know newly hired managers will never use, because they won't be there long enough.

Then, new managers are put to work doing agreement jobs under the guise of "training" for much less than it costs to have agreement employees do them, with the added bonus (for UP) of not having to deal with the unions for violating negotiated contracts. The added bonus is being able to use the new managers collective lack of experience as a defense if or when something goes wrong that results in litigation.

That, in a nutshell, is why you see so many managers. It will only get worse as they continue with PSR.

Hit it right on the nail.

UP suxs!!

The problem is that’s how the railroad wants them. They want a guy thats 23 straight out of college with no preconceived notion on how the railroad works so that they can pretty much brain wash then the way they want them to be. But the problem is most of them especially in north platte couldn’t manage a roadside taco stand