Shocked at all of these sad sack posts. You still don’t get it! This company almost filed bankruptcy. This company almost sold San Diego. This company was almost owned by the bank. You’re worried about food in the cafeteria or toilet paper or your supervisor talking to you? It was almost lost! All of it. The company is still trying to recover. A union? That would be the final knife and will put this company out of business. Is that what you want? The company can’t add costs. What would a union do for you besides add a dues! Think about what you want. Job security? A union can’t protect your job. Notice park presidents and VPs leaving? Yes, there are people who don’t like the cuts and layoffs and are leaving because they have had enough. That’s what you should do. If you hate the cafeteria, the climate, and constant cost savings... go! Why stick around if you are so threatened? Don’t push a union on this company. That will surely be the final kiss of death and you’ll be out anyway. You work for a company that is trying to survive and become successful again. Be a part of its rebuild not its demise.
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The CEO is just Ross’s play toy for now. He does whatever he tells him to but soon Ross will tire of him I’m sure.
He goes out of his way to avoid taking to employees unless he needs something so he walks around looking down at his phone all day. Pretty disrespectful man in this position now.
What the company owes us is respect and transparency. The CEO visited BGT yesterday under anonymity. What a coward. He has never addressed or even acknowledged us on his two visits to the park. I guess the Chairman of the Board doesn’t allow him to acknowledge the people who get it done for this company 365 days a year. Not everyone wants to leave. They just want some hard earned respect!
Its funny there is still this sense that the company owes you something, like what they've given to Manby, or Reilly or the other CEO's that have come and gone. For BAT I think it's the spend a little to save a lot, right? Be careful guys, the company won't be paying any of us huge amounts of money like they did the CEOs and COOs and those people. Those days are over. Be happy to have a job and if it's miserable, move on. And "sadsacks"?? Rude
Funny, there's money to pay Manby for not working here, money paid out to Atchison before him, and let's not forget the fines by the likes of Fred Jacobs and others for insider trading, and another SEC violation this year.
Wait.... there's still money for these executive perks to take private tours during park hours while we have paying guests, the free meals they are given, or the expenses for the BAT team for hotels/rental cars/per diems.
I was curious what jobs that poster was referring to when they said "minimum skillset". It was such a rude thing to say. Every job at Seaworld is important, and all employees should have the right to ask for better working conditions.
To the A hole that thinks the people here are minimum skill level, we've been here decades and have degrees and have the experience to work with 700lbs animals that can cause serious injury to the untrained and unskilled. You are clueless. Go work somewhere else...
You reap what you sow. And dont tell me this park is not making money ,they are, and til these ceo's start treating there employees better this company will keep getting worse and worse, and u think im.worried about a union possibly causing the park to close , so be it, these people need a wake up call, the employees have been feeling the brunt of all these cutbacks long enough, I agree with the one who spoke about all these upper management and ceos with all there perks, take away some of there perks, enough of taking away from the employee, thats not the answer either!!
To the person who posted the 2nd most recent response (Post ID: @ZYhKpWu-2hcy) BRAVO!! You absolutely hit the nail on the head and said it THE best I’ve ever heard!! This is what the majority of us are thinking and feeling. The original post?? That person is living in lala land.
I would absolutely nominate you to be one of the organizers of our union!
A union doesn’t solve all our problems but it will at least make Corporate listen to us. You make any type of comment about not having enough staff or that you’re on 12 hours again that day and you’re told “at least you still have a job...” The person that said “go” you obviously are some corporate jerk that has no idea or doesn’t care what is going on with your employees. Also there should be a limit to “cost savings” I’m sure that a company that can afford to put up there “interim senior leaders” in a hotel for three months can afford to not charge its employees .45 for a c-appy cup of coffee. And these “minimum skill levels” have been a part of the company 30 years rescuing, feeding, caring, loving these animals all these years. Go away with those comments, you obviously don’t have any idea what is going on here.
So I didn't get back to this yesterday but I said I wanted to elaborate more thoughts on this and here they are.
So yea. Nobody who has been with the company a while denies that Seaworld almost went bankrupt. That parks were almost closed or sold off. None of us are stupid.
So I have to ask, whos fault was all this that all this happened? Was it us peons at the bottom that came into work every day doing the best we could? Did we decide to make the company a publicly traded company to make extra money? Did we decide that we were going to deny that blackfish was not having an effect on attendance? Did we decide that day after day we were going to go in directions that were going to conflict with what we were supposed to be doing? Did we decide to throw money at projects built out by the lowest bidder, only to have to spend more money later to do it right? No. That was the executives at the top. The people who got the golden parachutes. Those who if they quit, they still had hundreds of thousands of dollars over their time there.
All this being said.. why are you telling us that have been here putting in blood sweat and tears for this company and to support the animals that have been rescued and that are at the parks.. that we should walk away without fighting for respect? That we should walk away and watch people turn seaworld into six flags? We put in a hell of a lot more work then these people like the current CSO that comes in and wants to cut things. Or the new CEO that was dumping trash in the ocean on his watch from his last company.
Think about it. Those of us that are still here fighting for things such as our benefits, we want to be with seaworld because we believe in what seaworld does! How many companies out there rescue animals? How many are about conserving and saving our planet? Not many.
Lets look at the costs for a minute. You say we cant add any more costs to the company. I can understand that. I really do. If you want to really say that we need to cut vacation, ensure every purchase is critically needed, that food quality is down, etc etc.. then that needs to apply top to bottom. There should be no comps for executives. No special favors. If Gus wants to come visit the park and wants to do a behind the scenes tour, based on your commentary we cannot afford to put an educator with him to show him behind the scenes at wild arctic. We cannot afford to give out a free cabana to the CSO when he visits DC with his family. They need to be paying the same as guests to ensure we are making every possible dollar to stay afloat. There should be no bonuses to salaried people when we get told that a department needs to work overtime because they are in a hiring freeze because attendance isnt high enough.
So when it comes to unions, maybe unions would be the kiss of death to seaworld. Or maybe it wouldn't be. All I know is that with the way moral is right now in the company, you might do OK if you have all of us old timers quit and replace us with newer people for a time, and what happens when those people come in and get a taste of how bad it is, that the company doesn't give a rats a-- about anything more than the bottom dollar? The good employees that come in will quit, leaving you with the bad ones that dont care at all and then your company will still go under.
If we literally cannot afford to take care of the employees, then we certainly arent going to be able to care about the animals, and then maybe this company SHOULD go out of business.
So take this feedback back to your little corporate overlords and tell them that if they want hard workers, they need to make it seem like they care about us as workers and to give us better conditions. Otherwise they will get stuck with sh-- employees and eventually they will be job hunting too.
To the person who mentioned "And a union will make sure that stuff stops?" No, a union doesn't solve everything, but grats, you got a pay raise. I did too, and did that make up for the years you didnt get one? Has that made work more bearable for you on your whole 2.5%? The executives are getting bonuses anyways no matter whether we have a union or not.. so lets try it.
To the person who mentioned about this forum being overly entitled people... You are so cute with your little mind. There are many of us that are far above minimum skill that are not happy. Along with those who are minimum level that arent. Does that mean we should be treated like trash? No, it doesn't.
Got a raise this year....next year you aren’t able to use vacation time to offset medical insurance cost.....on the order of 2-4%......how much was your raise again? Nice.
And a union will make sure that stuff stops? Nope, we all have to pay dues while the executives get bonuses!! I got a pay raise this year, that’s encouraging.
Enjoy the ride lol
Ill be happy to elaborate more thoughts on this clearly angry little person who probably is a corporate leader and can go off the handle at us on anon but ill just start with this for now.
If the company is still recoverying and the front line people are getting sh-- on for it, than there should be no bonuses being paid out to to execs. No extra perks to leadership. No behind the scene stuff. No extra vacations.
Get off your corporate high horse and join us down in reality.
This forum consist of overly entitled people who think their minimum skill line level job at a theme park deserved more. Say anything that makes sense and you get accused of working HR.
You must work in HR!!