Thread regarding Union Pacific Corp. layoffs

THIS IS HOW YOU SAVE YOUR JOBS!

We were just informed yesterday about a "Burn Chart". Its the companies new way of measuring production (mechanically) at each location. Ask your Manager/Director or whoever to see that chart !!! It will have your yards production percentage. If you arent in the 50% mark or above, itll have the amount of men/women that need to be cut to get to that number. We just lost 9 jobs due to this chart and not knowing of it. If anyone knows about this chart, they haven't said anything. This can save your location from being cut. Do what you have to collectively in your yard to get to the 50% and then they wont cut you...or so they say. This is HUGE information and may be what we need to help stop some of the bleeding across our crafts. Please spread the word. This is absolutely 100% true information and I hope it helps.

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They choose to close the hump in pine bluff for a reason. They wouldn’t be able to handle the work load. They should have tried to be more like NLR.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-7kkl

I worked and did 150% more repairs in the yard than other brothers. Some other towards the bottom like me lost are jobs while someone with 15 years milked the clock and played on a phone. So what you are saying makes since in a NON UNION environment. UP is a joke now, I loved working for them, , however I understand making money but they did it at the cost of families and community's. If I was still there could not hold my head HIGH, this is what the NAZI's did.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-6imu

At Houston Service Unit now Gulf Coast Service Unit they r saying it has to be at 60% KPI OR BETTER AT EACH SINGLE YARD LITTLE OR BIG!! OR ELSE!!!!!

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-5vis

If the chatter here and elsewhere is any indication of how the employees view the company, then I can't fathom why anyone working there would want to "save their jobs" to begin with.

UP is a lousy place to work. They know it. The fastest and easiest way to deal with that is to find another job.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-2fox

The problem is they pay for 1 scoop are are trying to get you up to 1/2 of a scoop in return. And you’re complaining about it.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-2rll

UP pays you for 1 scoop. Why give them 2?

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-2yjk

If the train symbol ended in PB then PB was the destination not the origin. That’s kindergarten stuff. Get with it.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-2gsd

Pine bluffs numbers were at the top of the sh– list, maybe. Every time we got a call for a road trip and the train symbol ended in “PB “ we knew the unit was going to be disgustingly dirty and left with open defects. And the problem was usually the open defects the train left with.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-2tig

The easiest way to save your jobs is to just do the minimum work or s— at it and create service disruptions. Plug up the sunset for a few days refers will run out of fuel, Locomotives will run out of fuel, they will run out of train crews. It’s pretty simple, the stripped down version of the railroad won’t be able to react like it has in the past.

This will eventually generate congressional hearings, as shippers complain and factories slow down. Certain areas will get embargos business will be forced over to the BNSF KCS ect... lower stock prices and poof an overall change in leadership and a return to the past. They tried this stripped down railroad in 2000-2001 and failed (why do you think they hired so many between 03-07)

You don’t need to lay down on the job, just follow the standard work which as written will take much longer then the actual task.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1lss

nobody is gonna save their jobs. when it's your time it's your time

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1kua

Pine Bluff's numbers were at the top. The employees were highly motivated and did their best. The end result was shutting down Pine Bluff and laying off everyone. Everyone except the junior manager who transferred to Pine Bluff from NLR. They promoted him to North Platte.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1zzr

Psr is just a race to the bottom. Look at the other companies that tried similar things. Even out of the rail industry like sears, Honeywell, ge, Once walll street gets ahold of you that profit is like crack to a crackhead

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1cqt

Then they'll just set another arbitrary metric and cut jobs based on that.

Burn charts (better known as excel spreadsheets) were in use long before the layoffs began.

If UP was actually concerned with employee performance and productivity they would be pursuing a different business model.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1gvd

Who said being more productive would save jobs? It does. The longer productivity numbers are down... the more people will be sent home because the data will show there’s too many people for the work to be done. This really isn’t difficult. Jobs will be cut regardless. But more will be cut if you’re not busy throughout your day. Simple.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1dav

Jenks is a lost cause, them old men are not going to work. That place is a daycare for retirement best thing for that place is to close the doors.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1vno

@six TLDR

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1pxl

You really think being more productive is going to save your job. It's a money game. The only way that they'll stop with these layoffs is if that stock price go down. What sense does it make to layoff people when you're not getting your numbers and then expect the same numbers that you already were not getting? They sippin on that koolaid again. But hey someone gonna still sign off 20hrs of work and talk cr×p even though it only took 2hrs to do. Those work times are a joke. Some stuff is broke and some stuff is broke broke. And some job times are totally off. We once upon a time had different work units for that but management changed the process. And for everyone who loves PSR, I guess you'll be on the UP apology tour like CN and CSX. They were making money long before this PSR stuff.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-1gjo

All these folks that think it’s ok to be unproductive and lazy at work and that it’s bad for a company to expect productivity is mind boggling. How did they get this way? We’re their parents not setting a good example? Or is their money for nothing mentality innate? Or do they sleep well and are they proud that they got over on the company today? The way to take care of good employees is to get rid of the bad ones.

So now I’ll wait for all the comments from the folks that I’m talking about. Those angry people that are p-ss-d off because they maybe... just maybe will have to earn their money like most grownups do.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-six

foamer alert.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-lyo

I agree that we need to bust our asses to get productivity up in NLR, which some of us do, but a lot of your higher seniority guys know they won't get laid off and pretty much don't give a sh-- and will not put in the time and effort to get it done.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-hrf

If you think productivity all of a sudden is going to save the jobs here you've gone mad. Productivity in for UP has climbed year after year and with it came record profits every quarter. What we have now is Wall Street hedge fund managers trying to squeeze blood from a stone.

The Company has given rise to profits over people and over safety. It's short term and it will be detrimental to both the UP employees and the communities they serve before it all straightens out. By that time CSX and CN who have already learned that PSR is a mess and BNSF which isn't going as deeply down the route will start taking in UP Customers. Besides losing customers to that it'll be interesting to see how all the lawsuits filed by current customers and eventually by the trucking companies for bringing all these freight/intermodal cars into the yard, knowing the shippers cannot take them all, and starts fining them for storage plays out.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-ejm

Stock price is $171.75 and rising. This tells me that whatever the company is doing is working. Y’all go ahead and work yourselves to death if you like. They’re going to just keep cutting jobs. Nothing you do will make a difference.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-ndn

Hello Mr manager please show me a PowerPoint on how to save my job. Boy oh golly gee we sure improved this place the last six weeks didn’t we? Oh they’re laying us off anyway? Cool. Can I take some free hot dogs with me?

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-hzo

For the responder that says to do the minimum to save your dignity. If you consider doing the minimum is dignified, you flat out a disgusting human. That attitude is exactly what will cost you your job. Or much worse... a good employees job. And if your goal is to reach 50% productivity you’re no better. Really? 50% is asking too much? How about 70%? Is that asking too much? You’re PAID to be productive. If you think the UP is a charity organization then just leave and go to a charity for help. But don’t take good, honorable people down with you because asking you to be productive for only part of your day is just asking YOU too much. Disgustingly lazy, worthless, entitled, BS is exactly what hurts the rest. If you don’t care about your fellow employees... leave. If you do care... leave. They don’t need the likes of you.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-rga

Bow to your corporate masters!

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-zau

I think your talking about KPI numbers this has been around for some time now but if your service unit just doesn't have the car volume there is Nothing you can do

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-iss

More intimidation. F them.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-zox

I hope your being sarcastic Zach from NLR. If not then may god have mercy on you.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-lyg

Yes most have heard about the chart, its just more b.s. its more now used as a scare tactic. There going to do what there going to do, so do 8 hours of the bare minimum and go home. Go out with whatever dignity you have left because in sure this Up has tried to strip you of most already

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-sma

What you are missing is that the burn chart is a never ending march towards efficiency. Even if you make the anticipated goal it will be revised. So that being said the jobs will keep being eliminated (maybe not layoffs but jobs won’t be replaced as they retire or resign).

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-qmm

The man is correct. But it’s typical railroader to say. No thanks blah blah blah. I want to do as little as possible and collect my paycheck. Why not try and do what you’re paid for work. 8 hours of work

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-xoz

No thanks. No B.S for me.

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Post ID: @ZZSUi0a-mez

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