Thread regarding Altice USA (Cablevision) layoffs

Freeport/Bethpage Contract

Altice & IBEW have agreed on a 3 year contract. Metrics are GONE after 2019. 2020 EVERYONE gets 2.5% increase in pay with 3% increase in pay the following year. All benefits locked in. Contract ratification vote will be held next week. Will provide more details about entire contract shortly.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL

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Ha ha ha good luck paying dues then pulling cash. What U get out that a plus!!! Oh don’t forget to shovel my truck out in snow storm!!!!

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-ekeg

Bailed on the company now bailing on your own union.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-alos

@Zrg0gRL-9nhg

You do know that person inquired about his new job YEARS AGO & nothing whatsoever to do with what was going on here. They offered him better money & he took, just like any of us would.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-aiiy

Well Gotta start somewhere. Sounds like they're already doing better than you could have gotten for yourself. Which is take what your given and fend for your self. The structure of promoting is worse than its ever been. NONE... Seems like everyone is on LTA which is an excuse not to give you a promotion. In the past we got trained we got a raise and a grade bump. Today you get used..

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-9cny

Another Fun Fact.....2 employee's have been involved in the contract negotiations since the begining, working side by side with the local and altice mangmt One quit Last week for another job .Guess he was not to confident in the contract he helped negotiate. Huge Red Flag for us all .

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-9nhg

Regardless of how you spin the numbers, you are still paying the Union 1000-2000 a year for..... what?

Lets not compare to other Unions, they pay for actually good contracts. Seems like we are going to be paying for a do nothing contract that offers no actual job security.

And thats the whole premise of these Union movements, to get us job security (and dont give me the "fire you for no reason" i havent seen them fire a single person at our shop)

Im all for paying for things that are worthwhile. And unless it offers job security or locks in severance pay, its not worthwhile

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-9npx

Not sure i know any one who got past 2% this year. Cablevision and Altice already took those higher percentages away a long time ago. 1 or 2% in dues is like not getting a raise one year and thats it. you lose that 2% once and the next raises year after year are yours. If you get a 3% raise you lose 2% of 3% which is .0006% of the 3% raise This place will have no loyalty knowing your potential hourly pay will barely hit 30/hr. Try convincing the Police, Nurses, Teachers, Firemen, Pseg, National Grid.MTA, .....etc they Don't need their union. This place is beyond abusive and unfortunately instead of learning from their mistakes that got us here they plan to crack down even harder. We'll see how that works out for them.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-9uuk

You keep talking about metrics gone as if its a good thing that nobody can get past 2.5% now.

Nevermijnd the fact CWA is going to take 2% themselves so, thanks for the few cents raise!

If they cant deliver solid job security or ATLEAST lock in a good severance deal, then its not worth a damn

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-8gwy

Tired of hearing the “1st contract BS” your taking our dues? Or do we get to pay less because your not exactly delivering the promised goods?

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-8wjp

Lodi

Oakland

Newark

Morris

Hawthorne

Brooklyn

Wappingers Falls

Freeport/Bethpage

These are the depots that either have a contract or are currently working on one. Oh yeah, IBEW 1049 that represents Freeport/Bethpage are located in Suffolk. Hmm 🤔, I wonder who will be next?????

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-8epx

@Zrg0gRL-8uox

My man you do know that the majority of depots either have a contract, or are working on one. We already have strength in numbers. It’s called the first contract & 1% dues sure sounds low to me. Let’s never ever forget that it was the techs who went to the union & not the other way around. Also like the other guy said that agreement with NY is gonna be over real soon & then what? Good luck to all the at will techs when that time comes cause they definitely don’t want you.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-8aur

There is more riding on this than just guaranteed raises. The way I see it is that if the contract is not strong enough and still let's mngmt have their way with us,other areas that are thinking about going union or are on the fence,may get scared away. There is strength in numbers and having facilities and areas split with union and non union is really no good. We want these other areas to want to be a part of this because of a good,strong contract.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-8uox

This is it guys there is no going back to the table. Altice will not give anymore. I strongly recommend to vote yes. Either vote yes or go back to being an at will employee that can be terminated at any time for any reason. Oh yeah let’s not forget about the agreement Altice has with NY that will be expiring shortly. We get a 3.5yr deal with guaranteed raises & metrics gone after 2019 (yes they are gone after 2019) all benefits locked in with union dues at ONLY 1% & people think it’s a bad deal. What did you guys think you were gonna get? Please tell me cause the company sure as hell ain’t given it to you.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-8afo

How does that work exactly? The company doesnt have a say in how many techs a contractor has, so how does that figure into a 60/40 split?

Either way, doesnt seem ideal to have a Union be ok with their guys getting laid off as long as some contractors do

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-8kgy

You are correct. The way I interpret the clause is 60% of the contractors will be laid off to 40% of in house. If the company valued it's employee's they should lay off all (100%) of contractors before in house employee's.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-7tot

Can you be more specific, whats the 60/40 layoff clause?

60% of layoffs must be contractors and 40% in-house?

Just want to be clear on what it means...

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-7glo

no metrics is a Baghdad Bob lie.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-7clz

Here’s what’s gonna happen, send them back, both sides are stuck, they declare an impasse. Then we get stuck paying %2 for a c-ap contract, no protections, and we have to chase these clowns out of here when the contract is up. All that and lose a good chunk of change to boot. Lesson learned. Keep the union leaches out of our pockets!

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-7put

Prove it. I challenge anyone to post what article number in the tentative contract even mentions a successor clause. And yes there is a layoff clause 60% contractors to 40% field service if there's a layoff. .. Be informed,know what your voting on. READ the tentative contract for yourselves.Understand what YOU will be paying for.we deserve better. Vote NO and send them back to the table.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-6jay

Show us.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-6cio

@Zrg0gRL-5lsh

Please stop spreading false information. There is a takeover clause in the contract & a layoff clause in the contract. I don’t know what contract your reading, but I have been in direct contact with local 1049 management & Altice management at the negotiation meetings for the last few months. Once again it’s a 3.5 year contract with metrics gone after 2019 & everyone guaranteed to get 2.5% raise the following year & thereafter. Once again metrics are gone after 2019 & once again the contract DOES include & layoff & takeover clause. I’m extremely confident that my fellow coworkers will vote to ratify this contract in the next couple days.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-6mll

So there is a clear cut, no-layoff clause?

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-6bbf

Oh no! The company is still in charge? And all we did by voting in the union is poke them in the eye, and give them a reason to be spiteful? Great job guys! Can’t wait to see how this all works out.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-6fup

no metrics?!

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-6ybo

With all due respect,you may want to re read the tentative contract again. There is no successor clause and the layoff clause does not protect anyone with the way it's written Benefits and policy's can be changed with 30 days written notice to the union and raises are subject to you being an employee in good standing..What does good standing mean? Could it mean you have to meet company metrics? It doesn't say. This tentative contract continues to give management the right to treat us the same as always. It's not worth the 1% at this time. Vote NO till we get a stronger deal.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-5lsh

@Zrg0gRL-5ayn

Yes. There is a takeover & lay-off clause in the contract. It’s a 3.5yr contract subject to ratification in a few days. I would say almost 100% of techs voted for the flat raise after 2019 when metrics are gone. The company can turn around at ANY time & change the way their metrics are designed. The way this company has been going we didn’t wanna take any chances. Dues are 1%. Just to put in perspective how LITTLE that is, if let’s say a 10yr tech worked 4hrs of any holiday he would have just about paid his dues for the entire year. I think it’s a good start. Best of luck to all the other depots & their contracts. Stay Strong & United!

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-5wyo

That’s great! It’s good to know that the guy busting his hump is gonna get the same raise as me, as I kick half my route to the night guys, and call in every Saturday this summer so some one else can pick up my slack. But hey! Thanks to that contract, we’ll be getting the same raise! S---ers!

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-5dsb

What do you mean guaranteed employment uf there is a reduction in workforce?

Is there a no layoff clause?

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-5ayn

@Zrg0gRL-3mvl

Absolutely. Once the contract is ratified next week I will show you that it says metrics are out after 2019. After that everyone gets the same flat raise for the next 2.5yrs. It’s a 3.5yr contract. Guaranteed benefits, takeover clause, guaranteed employment if there is a reduction in workforce. I also heard that there union dues will be 1%. That sounds good to me.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-4zgq

No metrics? 50% repeat rate is just fine? Cut and paste me the contract line that says no metrics LOL

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-3mvl

Sounds great but 3 years is 2 years too much. More an more work is going contractor. 2020 is the end of state deal. No way they gave them a contract that fast. Ill wait for the offical email. Then believe the messages on this site. This place is worse than a soap opera.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-2nkz

This is awesome news do t listen to all these nay sayers their still drinking the cool aid . Please keep the rest of us informed. This is Morris btw and we start are talks with union in next few weeks but it’s good to hear all the positive feedback . I know Newark got a similar deal with no metrics so there is Hope. Good luck guys

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-1cnp

Once again look what happened to spectrum. It will happen to you good luck.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-1aej

Yeah ok....keep dreaming

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-vkx

"Sounds too good to be true"

NO, it's just good.

We all stand to benefit as more & more shops go union. We'll have more bargaining power at the table. Some people still can't understand this concept.

Congrats Freeport/Bethpage !!

hopefully, the rest of LI will get on board soon as Hilber's grip continues to fade away.

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-sjz

No metrics?...??? Sounds too good to be true, what is the catch are we all fired before 2020?

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-ipd

Congrats! Here’s to hoping the CWA can get us similar!

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Post ID: @Zrg0gRL-kqp

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