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Lyft takes over Ford GoBike, bye...

https://www.lyft.com/bikes/bay-wheels

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The city of Detroit has the worst rate of car-pedestrian deaths in the entire nation, ain't no way any sane person is going take up bicycling there as their main means of getting around.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-9jon

The issues of Detroit proper aren't due any transportation issues, but rather a many decades of corruption. The downhill slide started 70 years ago under Mayor Mirani and flew off the cliff during the two decades Mayor Young was running things. And Kwame... well, Detroiters were so gone by then that they voted for and got a gangsta for Mayor. No need to blame the auto industry for Detroit's deterioration. That being said, the long standing problem for all of south-east Michigan has been the failure to diversify our economy in order to reduce the impact of the auto industry business cycle. I recall all the hand-wringing in the 1980's about how our economic woes were from having all our eggs in one basket and how each politician said they were to improve our lot by bringing other industries into the region. Nearly 40 years later it's about the same... so if you want any kind of long term stability you really need to leave the auto industry and the region as well.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-9nsz

: @ZwTeRxf-4dsc been to the Netherlands? They manage to get their kids to daycare on their bikes. Could most Americans no.

Before the auto companies ripped up all the street car rails etc. Detroit had functional and practical mass public transportation. Chicago prioritized mass public transportation. Detroit glorified the auto. Which city is thriving? Which city is bike-able, walk-able and has mass transportation? Which city is the poster child for urban decay? Which city has 52% uninsured drivers?

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-9ipl

@ZwTeRxf-pvl , I hate when people are buying into this bike and ride sharing c-ap. One most places around Michigan and most cities and areas in the US, it's unsafe to ride a bike more than just around your neighborhood or bike paths. There's no sidewalks or bike trails or bike Lanes in most areas.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-9btf

Bikes are only practical for individual use. Tell me how many Canadians bike their kids to daycare then go to work.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-4dsc

They started introducing the bike programs into the automotive campuses. Free, no cost associated, take whenever you needed.

That didn't work out for them. Always a rake of full bikes still sitting there. Kind of like those self serve food kiosks you see in fast food. No one wants them. Few will use them.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-3tbr

I like bikes too

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-aew

@ZwTeRxf-nit You must not live in the US or Canada. Good luck biking 35 miles to work in -40 weather. Or biking 30 min to get a few groceries. US is not like Europe, everything is greatly spread out.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-pvl

Personally, I hate cars, and would prefer scooters at least. As far as bikes are concerned, there are a lot of people who could really use a bike to get in shape, look around. Cars are wasteful, require a ton of resources, overpriced, and all you do is sit in traffic anyway. It's 1 person, 1 car, and miles of traffic, everyday all day.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-nit

I lived in China whilst this bike fiasco started developing. It started with one bike company having bikes set up around key locations, then a few month later it morphed into about 6-8 different companies all setting their bikes up too. Pretty soon bikes outnumbered people (in China mind you) and there was little room to walk on the sidewalks. Then about 3 months or so later all the cities started deciding they were a nuisance one by one. Shortly after, every city in China had massive bike graveyards throughout the city. Also saw tons of bikes with the scanner and such cut off and people taking the bikes as their own. There was also a big issue with people grabbing a bike and taking it as there own personal rental. You would find a bike, start scanning it and going through the rental process only to have some person sprinting over towards you screaming that it's their bike. Really hope this bike and scooter fad dies off soon.

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Post ID: @ZwTeRxf-qdk

I wonder why bike sharing is still a thing in business world. Hasn't this business venture been proved to be a fiasco in China, where user base is larger in magnitude, operation cost is residual and virtually no regulation friction, compared to the u.s.? Why do lyft, uber and others think it is viable(profitable) in the u.s.?

Another thing beyond me is although the business model/development of this kind seems to be bound to fail, why they are still chased by enormous amount of capital.

My cynical suspicion is these so call tech start ups are just instrument of a grand new ponzi scheme in which a bunch of investors use borrowed money(from banks, insurance company and the likes) to set up a start up and increase the value of it(manufacture hype to justify the inflation along the way) and the sell to public, which is mainly pension funds, 401k, government backed institutions and so one, that is, ordinary folks.

I hope someone would correct me and shed some light on this matter.

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