Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Where are we now?

Someone posted this a while back, but I hadn't looked at it until now. Here's the whole list from:

https://www.jimcollins.com/concepts/five-stages-of-decline.html

I think we are at the end of stage 4..... last thing that is being done is propping up the stock... instead of investing and working with good people to rebuild. We'll hit Stage 5 when the money runs out next year.

STAGE 1: HUBRIS BORN OF SUCCESS. Great enterprises can become insulated by success; accumulated momentum can carry an enterprise forward, for a while, even if its leaders make poor decisions or lose discipline. Stage 1 kicks in when people become arrogant, regarding success virtually as an entitlement, and they lose sight of the true underlying factors that created success in the first place. When the rhetoric of success (“We’re successful because we do these specific things”) replaces penetrating understanding and insight (“We’re successful because we understand why we do these specific things and under what conditions they would no longer work”), decline will very likely follow.

STAGE 2: UNDISCIPLINED PURSUIT OF MORE. Hubris from Stage 1 (“We’re so great, we can do anything!”) leads right into Stage 2, the Undisciplined Pursuit of More—more scale, more growth, more acclaim, more of whatever those in power see as “success.” Companies in Stage 2 stray from the disciplined creativity that led them to greatness in the first place, making undisciplined leaps into areas where they cannot be great or growing faster than they can achieve with excellence, or both. When an organization grows beyond its ability to fill its key seats with the right people, it has set itself up for a fall. Although complacency and resistance to change remain dangers to any successful enterprise, overreaching better captures how the mighty fall.

STAGE 3: DENIAL OF RISK AND PERIL. As companies move into Stage 3, internal warning signs begin to mount, yet external results remain strong enough to “explain away” disturbing data or to suggest that the difficulties are “temporary” or “cyclic” or “not that bad,” and “nothing is fundamentally wrong.” In Stage 3, leaders discount negative data, amplify positive data, and put a positive spin on ambiguous data. Those in power start to blame external factors for setbacks rather than accept responsibility. The vigorous, fact-based dialogue that characterizes high-performance teams dwindles or disappears altogether. When those in power begin to imperil the enterprise by taking outsized risks and acting in a way that denies the consequences of those risks, they are headed straight for Stage 4.

STAGE 4: GRASPING FOR SALVATION. The cumulative peril and/or risks-gone-bad of Stage 3 assert themselves, throwing the enterprise into a sharp decline visible to all. The critical question is, How does its leadership respond? By lurching for a quick salvation or by getting back to the disciplines that brought about greatness in the first place? Those who grasp for salvation have fallen into Stage 4. Common “saviors” include a charismatic visionary leader, a bold but untested strategy, a radical transformation, a dramatic cultural revolution, a hoped-for blockbuster product, a “game changing” acquisition, or any number of other silver-bullet solutions. Initial results from taking dramatic action may appear positive, but they do not last.

STAGE 5: CAPITULATION TO IRRELEVANCE OR DEATH. The longer a company remains in Stage 4, repeatedly grasping for silver bullets, the more likely it will spiral downward. In Stage 5, accumulated setbacks and expensive false starts erode financial strength and individual spirit to such an extent that leaders abandon all hope of building a great future. In some cases, their leaders just sell out; in other cases, the institution atrophies into utter insignificance, and in the most extreme cases, the enterprise simply dies outright.

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Common “saviors” include a charismatic visionary leader, a bold but untested strategy, a radical transformation, a dramatic cultural revolution, a hoped-for blockbuster product, a “game changing” acquisition, or any number of other silver-bullet solutions. Initial results from taking dramatic action may appear positive, but they do not last.

Nailed it.

If some one doesnt give their car to the neighboring kid, who will give a multi billion to a bunch of teenagers to run the company and expect them to save it.

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@ZxBZUDy-azr

I'm 10 months and 19 days from retiring. If, in 4 months, they want to RIF me, my only reaction would be.

Elation. I'd get 6 months paid vacation, plus unemployment, on the company dime.

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Post ID: @ZxBZUDy-bct

Good post

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Post ID: @ZxBZUDy-koo

"Trying to blame the messenger is not going to fix anything."

Messenger of what? Why would anyone listen to an embittered laid off hasbeen?

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Post ID: @ZxBZUDy-ksq

@ZxBZUDy-azr

You sound like you are in denial of where the company is headed. Trying to blame the messenger is not going to fix anything.

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Post ID: @ZxBZUDy-rih

And we've certainly had "accumulated setbacks and expensive false starts". That's all Oracle has been doing for several years.

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Post ID: @ZxBZUDy-hbg

In Stage 5, accumulated setbacks and expensive false starts erode financial strength and individual spirit to such an extent that leaders abandon all hope of building a great future. In some cases, their leaders just sell out; in other cases, the institution atrophies into utter insignificance, and in the most extreme cases, the enterprise simply dies outright.

That's LE, he's just selling out.... that's the stock buybacks. They are there for himself and his cronies at the top. We've been sold out.

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