Thread regarding Corinthian Colleges Inc. layoffs

35851 and 35852: It varies a lot between industries and individual firms. The most common scenarios are, in order of frequency (1) 2 weeks notice given and worked, (2) 2 weeks notice given, employee paid two weeks but asked not to work, and (3) 2 weeks notice given, employee escorted out and not paid for the notice period. Unfortunately, we fall into the third category, which is fully legal. If that happens to you and you've told your new employer you'll start in two weeks, most people would say just stay home and rest the two weeks if you can afford not to be paid. It's true that many employers may assume there was a reason that your 2 week notice offer was declined. At CCi, it's policy, but in many firms the decision is made on a case-by-case basis.

851, yeah. Your one example must mean I'm lying. Whatever. Don't believe me. I'm not arguing with you. But it's my business to know these things. I do not care if you believe me. Do. Not. Care.

35845: That's BS. I'm not sure where you've been working, but the only time I've ever heard of that is when management really don't want that employee around because they don't trust him/her to not intentionally cause some sort of damage. I also wouldn't put it past CCi to adopt that policy. In normal instances, the company tries to negotiate more time to make the transition to a new employee smoother. When I last changed positions (1 year ago), I insisted on giving my old company a month's notice and they tried to talk me into giving them 6 weeks.

OP, I believe you. Thanks for the info. Most people don't trust these boards, since there is so much deliberate misinformation. And of course, everyone is fearful for their jobs now that they may not have one and they haven't started looking yet. A lot of people have assumed we all ride the ship into a new college (or CCI rebranded) with new P

Cards and full pay reinstated. They've had heads in the sand, despite the fact that everything is falling apart around them. I don't know if management is perpetuating the nonsense or what. But that internal email was deliberately worded to make people feel hopeful. What they aren't expecting is that even if we are bought, we will likely see mass layoffs first. And if a company does buy us, they have to rebrand and rebuild. CCI is broken beyond repair. And they'll likely fire everyone. But if they don't, they'll offer jobs with big paycuts and fewer bennies. Rome has fallen friends. It's not going to be rebuilt overnight. The party is over. Last one who leaves, please turn out the lights.

If it's true, are they firing or laying off? How would mass layoffs affect a potential sale? I don't believe there is one, but the rumor is pervasive.

Most companies don't accept 2 week notices anymore. Once you quit, they show you the door.

35812: There's always been a lot of attrition at Socle. Even with the terrible Tampa Bay job Market, Tampa Socle (well, SFS until last year) has always had an over 25% attrition rate per year. Some firings (folks who spoke out against regulatory infractions), a couple of rounds of RIFs this year, but mostly resignations. I will agree though that the pace has picked up considerably.

Lots of RIFs already at Socle. Well, I think there have been lots of RIFs. I just come to work every day and see more and more empty cubicles. I guess they could be quitting, but it seems word would get around during their two week notice period. Then again, someone told me once that Socle doesn't accept the two weeks notice thing. If you give notice, supposedly they just tell you it's your last day, escort you out, and you don't get paid beyond that day. I used to live in CA and that was probably illegal there, but I think in Florida anything goes. So I guess I would have to say, lots of attrition in Socle, either due to firings, RIFs and/or resignations.

802- All you need is someone to call the student and say, "Get yo ass in class."

35797 Please GOD let this be true! CCi, you can double my class load for the same pay if I don't have to do outreach. And I will tutor the HECK out of my students! Hallelujah!

Anonymous35797 - if you're saying that we will be reducing numbers of instructors (bigger classes equal fewer instructors) and then hiring new outreach specialists, that makes sense. Outreach (and student services in general) positions don't require much education, training, or smarts (sorry, but it's true). Probably cheaper in a call center type environment than instructors are, and I would think just as good/poor results.

I don't know about the rest of the OP's post but at our campus there has been a major increase in PIP's in the last 6-8 weeks,.

35789 - not sure I'm seeing the logic in how you're representing the re-org chart. You're basically saying that separating out academics and outreach and then increasing class sizes is proof of "massive" RIFs. To me it makes perfect sense and has been what instructors have wanted for a long time. An end to outreach so they can spend their time actually teaching. having to tutor? Fine. With outreach gone, I'm HAPPY to tutor my students. It's hard to imagine CCi reducing outreach. It's a big, big thing to us! Keep students signing in at all costs so we can keep their aid! there will still be lots of outreach, but the instructors won't be doing it. Instead, they'll be teaching and tutoring like they should always have been.

Are they saying layoffs with happen on Oct 5th or notices will go out on Oct 5? If 2 week notices go out on Oct 5, then that makes sense.

I agree this is a troll. Troll looked at calendar and picked last day of term. Why would they do mass layoffs before final grades are due? That makes no sense.

The Catrina person that everyone is referring to is the regional HR manager is SoCal East region in California. Not sure if she is the "firing lady" or if the OP is an employee or not but he/she is referring to an actual person.

not a troll... believe it or not, bury your head in the sand. Yes, on Oct 5. Why Oct 5th? They won't rif before the term ends because they need people there to wrap up the term. They don't need to rif adjuncts because they just won't assign new classes.

Someone asked for specifics to verify. How about this..... Yes, there has been an uptick in Pip's. If you are an employee ask around. Previously good employees with good reviews are now on a Pip. Most of these folks are the higher pay for their position. Its been across all campuses and all positions. Furlough is for Sept only, not Oct. Why do you think that is? Reorg just happened, look again at the reorg charts. Why would they separate Outreach from academics? Increase in class sizes to 32, making FT faculty start doing tutoring every week. All these lead to one thing...the need for less employees/staff. Departmental budgets have been shared for Sept only...not Oct for most departments. Why?

Btw: The layoffs were support to happen in Sept, but enough folks have left/resigned and the furlough/cut in pay saved enough to "float" for one more month (Sept).

So you can believe it or not, prepare or not. I am done in a couple weeks but thought I might share some info to help some folks. I Didn't expect to get flamed for doing so.

PIPs are a thing. Maybe not your campus, but at mine.

35772 - I keep hearing about an uptick in PIPs on this board, but not at work. I think it's just a troll rumor, which would seem to make YOU a troll. Besides, my troll detector is strong enough to recognize the troll tone in the OP. That didn't come from a current employee. "More inside information is starting to leak out..." yeah, right. What department and location do you work in that you'd hear inside info OP? Why would you leak it here? Why all the silly sounding business-speak? I call shenanigans on both of you. Also the poster talking about Catrina, the mysterious "firing lady."

767 feels like a troll. Modules? What's a module? And given the internal email yesterday, I would think you would know more.

I can usually spot a troll. I'm a hater. This feels about right. There's been a huge uptick in PIPs and layoffs seem the only way to make payroll work, given the circumstances.

Anonymous35767 - I've never heard of "Catrina, the firing lady" and why wouldn't you state your campus if she's there right now? Smelling a troll.

No there will be RIF's soon. Saw Catrina, you know the HR firing lady. Once she's on campus you know something is going to happen. I imagine it to be after the modules end. We're scraping to make payroll for September, what makes you think we can survive October. If anything were in talks with ECMC. How long will it take for them to buys us. Months? We don't have enough time and monies to last past September. We're scrambling folks, and it won't be pretty!

RIF's on a Sunday? Sounds really believable. NOT...

I call BS. This sounds like the troll posts we've seen in the past, trying to be very specific (with no actual specific knowledge of CCi) while also trying to get someone to leak inside info to this board. Some common "scare" phrases they use are "massive layoffs" and "first wave." Go away!