Any regrets?
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No Ragrets.
Nice buy out congratulations not many were offered what you received.
@1c6 classic, end it with more deflection, redirection, and ignoring the fact that your own words make zero sense when you're confronted with them...the latest saying vsp was a "layoff" then dropping the mic. You win!
Bye Bye
@1c4
That’s enough free insight for one thread. I’ll let you get back to confusing survival with superiority—no point debating someone who mistakes noise for value.
And if you’re posting all this while on Verizon time or Wi-Fi? That tracks. Nothing screams “top talent” like defending layoffs on company time while pretending you earned your seat.
You didn’t rise. You just remained.
We’re done here. Try not to trip over the bar on your way out.
Re:1c3+1jyft7g5q. So you think you were chosen for your excellence? Hilarious.
@1ba
No one said the company can’t go on without us. It’s that it’s going on worse—and people like you are the reason why.
You weren’t chosen for excellence. You were just still standing when the bar got lowered. Especially you.
I was called at 8 am Monday morning to go to a conference room. The manager read something in effect my days of working at VZ were finished. They then had me sit with a HR person. I received a nice package of almost $400K plus medical insurance. I had 28 years and was treated like I took early retirement.
Bitter people on here who think the company can’t go on without them
@19m it's not a layoff thread. Did you read the title of the thread?
You or some other anonymous person literally said "helps you sleep better at night" so I responded to it, in two posts before mine. How much have you had to drink tonight?
Does your world have someone "directing traffic in a parking lot" ? Mine doesn't, it's almost, alien. Or perhaps just from another country? Really, I have no idea what that person is trying to communicate so yes I referenced another country.
So, where do you work these days?
@19
Wow!
That ‘your country’ line? That’s where he lost me. You can disagree all day, but the moment you start othering someone to make your point, it’s no longer a discussion — it’s insecurity in disguise.
The rest reads like a résumé stapled to a meltdown. Directors who are truly secure don’t punch down or ask what’s ‘a thing’ elsewhere. They lead — quietly, decisively, and without the weird superiority complex.
Let’s move away from narcissistic sociopaths who mistake control for competence. This isn’t LinkedIn cosplay — it’s a layoff thread.
And just a reminder: being loud isn’t the same as being right. It’s usually just a cover for not knowing the difference.
@19g
You really typed all that out and thought it made you look composed? Man, you’re unraveling in real time.
No one dragged your title into this — you did. Nobody asked for your bedtime routine, your bio, or a weird flex about benefits. But here you are, lashing out like someone who knows their credibility’s on thin ice.
And that swipe about ‘your country’? Cute. When the argument dies, go for the passport — textbook insecurity.
You walked into this thread swinging at shadows, mistook metaphor for menace, and now you’re flailing because someone dared to challenge the pedestal you built for yourself. You’re not defending your position — you’re confirming everyone’s suspicions.
Pro tip: real leaders don’t need anonymous threads to validate their peace. They also don’t meltdown over parking lot jokes.
More nonsense...parking lot? What are you even talking about? Are you attempting to make some kind of analogy? What are you attempting to connect between a director and a parking lot traffic attendant, is that even a thing in your country?
You think a threads on an anonymous forum speak volumes?
Yes I sleep very well at night thanks to what I do. Hope you find your peace (and your benefits for yourself and your families if you have them) wherever that may be. Doesn't sount like anyone wants to tell me their real history so I am done revealing more of mine. I'm sure you will have some problem with that too.
@19a
Maybe you are a director. But based on this thread, you’re directing traffic in a parking lot no one wants to park in anymore.
@19a
Thanks for sharing your journey—truly, every organization needs its champions.
That said, it’s worth reflecting: those who genuinely lead tend to uplift others, not question why they left.
Surviving multiple reorgs doesn’t automatically equal impact. Sometimes, it just means you learned to stay quiet in the right rooms.
But if telling this story helps you sleep better at night, then by all means—carry on.
Sorry for the delay, was actually.doing my job today. Just curious about all of those who've railed on me for working my way up the company ranks from a new recruit, building connections and accomplishments to "beat the system" and become an apparent statistic of death doom and gloom, how many of you still work here, and if you don't, how were you dismissed? Did you take the VSP?
"Dismissive, insulated, and arrogant." That’s exactly how my boss is. Very well said!
Credits go to: @tv+1jyft7g5q
Coming from you, this response reads less like leadership and more like a retirement letter that forgot to submit itself.
You “fought” for 20 years? Based on what’s left of your credibility, it wasn’t much of a fight. You didn’t rise — you lingered. You weren’t promoted — you were inherited.
And let’s talk about AI. You’re not at risk because you’re expensive. You’re at risk because the software doesn’t tolerate dead weight or delusion.
To make a long story short: spellcheck isn’t your biggest problem — perspective is. So when the algorithm finally taps you on the shoulder, just remember: no one will be fighting to keep you this time.
That seat you’re clinging to? It’s already been listed under “available bandwidth.”
'I'm still here. Congrants on your clarity.I fought like he'll the last 20 years here, I know I earned my place.'
They are looking to cut the high earners for AI. At least you can take some online classes to bolster your resume when you get let go. Spellcheck is important in jobs like yours.
Good luck
Let’s not rewrite history — you walked into a layoff thread as a senior director and started swinging at people who took the VSP, implying we left out of fear, while you “earned” your place. That wasn’t insight. That was ego on autopilot.
You didn’t survive five rounds of interviews because you were the best. You survived because enough good people left and someone needed to fill the gap. You weren’t promoted — you were absorbed. There’s a difference between climbing and floating, and you floated into a vacuum.
You call it “truth-telling”? No. It’s just corporate cosplay — dressing up conformity as grit. Real leaders don’t spend their time punching down on a layoff board. They don’t seek validation by belittling those who walked out with clean records, respected work, and self-respect intact.
Let’s be honest: you’re not here defending the company — you’re defending your place in it. Because deep down, you know your rise wasn’t powered by excellence, but by attrition. The company drained itself of experience and substance. You just happened to be the last one clapping when the music stopped.
Your tone is the exact rot that’s eaten this place from the inside. Performative positivity. Manufactured loyalty. Faux toughness hiding behind a badge that doesn’t mean what it used to. You don’t represent leadership — you represent what’s left after the real talent exits.
You’ll “still be here”? Of course you will. So will the mold, the water damage, and the empty cubicles. But don’t confuse endurance with significance. When this company finally caves in under its own delusion, no one’s going to remember the names of those who helped prop up the dysfunction. They’ll remember the ones who saw the collapse coming and had the spine to walk.
So enjoy your title. Enjoy your narrative. Just know that no one outside your echo chamber is buying it anymore.
Kisses to Hans.
I survived 5 rounds of full panel interviews. There were at least 40 other applicants, from what I was told. You keep telling yourself whatever you need to spread the lies you want others to believe, I'll tell the truth. I'm still here. Congrants on your clarity.I fought like he'll the last 20 years here, I know I earned my place.
@10p
took the VSP — not out of fear, but clarity. I left with my record clean, my work respected, and my spine intact. So watching someone like you — a product of corporate attrition, not achievement — brag about “upward mobility” is both laughable and sad.
You didn’t earn a promotion. You filled a vacuum. The company drained its experience pool, and you happened to be the one still clapping when the music stopped. That’s not leadership. That’s inertia.
Spare us the lecture on “attitude.” It’s easy to talk positivity when you were gifted a title and a narrative. You didn’t rise — you floated. And now you show up on a layoff thread, gloating like a spokesperson for Stockholm syndrome.
Let me be blunt: you’re an embarrassment to the position you hold. Not because you survived — but because you genuinely believe your survival is proof of excellence, rather than evidence of a broken system that rewards conformity over competence.
You’ll “still be here”? I don’t doubt it. Termites outlast the beams they chew through, too. But don’t confuse staying power with significance. When this house finally collapses, no one’s going to remember the names of those who helped prop up the rot.
Some of us left before the ceiling caved in. You’re still here rearranging the chairs on the Titanic and calling it “growth.”
Again, I'm here to say there's been TONS or promotions because of VSP, including mine. It did exactly what it was designed to, created tons of upward mobility options for people like me. How you choose to take advantage of them is up to you. Building walls and negative attitude will get you shown the door as fast as you claim I will be. Guarantee you all, I'll still be here.
'The Senior Director who posted earlier? That wasn’t just a comment—it was a glimpse into the executive mindset. Dismissive, insulated, and arrogant. That’s the real culture problem—and it’s not going away with a reorg or a new slogan.'
Exactly. And why more customers will be leaving for other companies, but sadly the other wireless telco companies have the same mindless leaders.
Sam is the definition of hypocrisy. Watch this space we’re just getting started like such as! She plays Barbie girl cheerleader when there’s no gender diversity with her direct reports, preaches supporting vteamers while going all gas, no breaks on the global enablement team offshoring jobs, and turns a blind eye to badly misaligned and overlapping job functions such as finance. But hey, at least she’s besties with global elites like Tom Brady. Go beyond!
Let me add—as someone whose paycheck no longer comes from Verizon—I have no reason to toe the line. I’m not beholden to the branding machine, the talking points, or the silence.
And if today’s Pride Day messaging from Samantha is any indication, the gap between words and actions keeps widening. Publicly, Verizon celebrates inclusion. Internally, it sidelines older employees—not because they underperform, but because they don’t fit the curated image Hans and the current C-suite are desperately trying to sell to Wall Street and LinkedIn.
It’s not inclusion. It’s image control. And it reeks of hypocrisy.
You can’t preach diversity while quietly practicing demographic cleansing for optics. If Hans wants to reinvent Verizon as a lifestyle brand, he should do it without gutting the people who built its foundation.
No amount of rainbow hashtags or motivational fluff will cover up what this really is: performative leadership propped up by exclusionary tactics.
The Senior Director who posted earlier? That wasn’t just a comment—it was a glimpse into the executive mindset. Dismissive, insulated, and arrogant. That’s the real culture problem—and it’s not going away with a reorg or a new slogan.
I’m not bitter. I’m disappointed. Disappointed in the direction Verizon has taken, in the leadership it has enabled, and in what it has chosen to become.
Reputation is earned. And Verizon is torching what’s left of it—one tone-deaf post at a time.
'If you build walls around yourself you can't get out. Learn how the system works or you'll be pis sed off angry and have "solidarity" with people who love off it too. That's only going to get you to the head of a class of lo sers.'
As 'SR Director' - the clock is ticking for your role until they can either outsource you or get AI to do your job. Learn all you can and keep your resume updated, good luck on your future after VZ.
You’re free to share personal opinions—but once you identify yourself as a Senior Director at Verizon, it stops being just personal. You chose to invoke your title, then proceeded to downplay the site’s purpose, mock concerns, and flex a $5M 401k while others navigate layoffs, uncertainty, or forced exits.
That’s not just poor judgment—it’s a brand liability. It reflects a troubling culture where executive voices punch down instead of listening up.
If a frontline employee posted something half as dismissive, they’d be flagged by HR. When a leader does it? It becomes a corporate risk.
Verizon should take a hard look at whether this kind of tone aligns with its stated values—or if its leaders are operating without accountability.
@s7
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That’s the way business goes’ — spoken like someone who mistook compliance for competence. You didn’t escape the fire; you were furniture when the room burned down.
Calling people ‘bitter’ is a convenient way to avoid the truth: leadership failed, talent walked, and the ones left are clapping for themselves like survivors of a self-inflicted collapse.
Wow , some very bitter people here. Congrats to those who did their job, saved, and got the f out . That’s the way business goes. People come and go, get fired or retired and other people take their place.
@qh
You keep mentioning your $5M like it’s armor. It’s not. It’s a receipt—for time spent saying yes, staying quiet, and watching better people leave.
You weren’t promoted. You were defaulted into place when the room emptied out. That’s not leadership. That’s vacancy management.
$5 M smells great—right up until the ship lists. Congrats on maxing out the 401(k) while the bulkheads rust; a true case study in mistaking the tide for your own rowing.
You thank the VSP crowd for making room—how generous. Here’s the insider memo you missed while polishing your cape:
- RTO theater that burns talent just to cosplay 1998.
- “Transformation” programs run by PowerPoint preachers chasing the next slide-deck buzzword.
- Middle-layer cheerleaders who swap institutional knowledge for quarterly optics—and then brag about it on layoff boards.
That trifecta is exactly why Verizon is going down, and why your heroic balance sheet won’t buy a lifeboat when the next earnings call hits an iceberg.
So ask yourself: if you’re truly soaring, why circle this forum like a corporate vulture looking for applause? Maybe insecurity has a bigger market cap than Verizon these days.
But hey—keep flexing those Band-7 RSUs. Nothing screams “future-proof” like whistling TED-Talk slogans on a sinking deck.
Uhh wow you are all so angry. Here are my responses.
This is a vsp thread, I thanked those that took it because I got a promotion. I hope vsp comes back so I can pass that along to someone else.
I haven't been a Sr Director long since vsp just happened. Therefore, I have no LTI RSU other than the ones every Band 7 and 6 gets, which is very small.
This site has very little to do with layoffs. It's a message board filled with talk about RTO, Union negotiations, raci st banter, and oh yeah some people that actually know how to be a good office worker and make a good living in a positive way. I'm here to say that you can do it too. If this isn't the place for you to do it then all the best in your search.
- 5M earned in my 401k is a heroic feat. In fact it's well more than the national average. And it's all thanks to Verizon + me so yeah it's pretty impressive to some.
If you build walls around yourself you can't get out. Learn how the system works or you'll be pis sed off angry and have "solidarity" with people who love off it too. That's only going to get you to the head of a class of lo sers.
Took the last VSP in 2019. No regrets—watched the same cycle repeat from a better seat. Sometimes stepping away is the clearest way to see the pattern.
No regrets at all!
@jg
If you’re a senior director, then own it. Say: “I benefited from LTIs, RSUs, and a different comp structure — and I’m still here because the system worked for me.” Don’t come here pretending $1.5M in a 401(k) is some heroic feat of endurance.
You weren’t surviving — you were thriving. You had insulation others didn’t.
And if things are so balanced and fulfilling, why are you scrolling a layoff forum? Looking for applause? Or just needing to remind yourself you’re still in the building?
This isn’t a TED Talk. It’s a room full of people who were cut loose. Maybe read the room — or better yet, leave it.
If your work-life balance is so great and retirement so secure, what exactly are you doing lurking on a layoff forum?
People come here looking for solidarity, not sermons. You’re not here to help — you’re here to feel superior. That’s not resilience. That’s insecurity with a corporate badge on it.
You didn’t beat the system — you became its echo. So ask yourself: if you’re truly at peace, why are you still seeking applause from strangers in a room full of people just trying to survive?
@nh
You’re right — you’re not close to retirement. You’re just prematurely auditioning for your own highlight reel.
No one questioned your work-life balance — we questioned the tone-deaf bragging in a forum where people are losing jobs. You came to a layoff thread to flex, not empathize. That says more about your EQ than your 401k.
And don’t worry — this isn’t anger. It’s clarity. Some of us just see through corporate folklore dressed up as life advice.
Zero regrets. 22 years was plenty. It's freeing not to have a job that stresses out your mind even when you're not at work or when you're on vacation. VSP was amazing, for me anyway.