I’m getting real tired of all the fake calls and interaction everyone is doing. Why can’t leadership crack down on this? I’m mad that I actually do my job and put in real numbers yet it seems like everyone else is just faking call stats and emails to skate along. This is at least what I noticed in my hub. This can’t be how every tech company operates. If someone from leadership sees this DIG INTO THE DATA! It’s all c-ap.
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And now you're on a PIP hahahahaha. Maybe you should have worried about your performance instead of other people's.
Hahahababahababaha
sC is biggest of them all. An investment banker masquerading as a technologist.
To be ratted, there must be a rat!
You all being ratted out? Exposed!
Don’t worry. There are no problems at Oracle. Oracle is like a finely tuned, perfectly running machine.
Don’t believe me? Then go to http://www.oracle.com for proof
@1zsq+16JjTbLk, my apologies, English is not my first language. I have nothing but love for you and the rest of the Oracle clan. Please don’t take it personally. This is not an English class but a forum to express views/concerns.
"As an OD rep this also pisses me off"
- and yet you still work here
you loose!!
Suggestions for you
- Learn the difference between “lose” and “loose”. I think I learned that in around 3rd grade.
- Oracle was successful a long time ago, but they are not successful now, nor will they ever be again. They are losing customers at a faster rate than they can acquire new ones. So there’s that, plus the fact that it’s too late now to succeed in the cloud platform market. They missed the window and are a distant #3 player, at best.
Reality is a bummer sometimes, isn’t it?
@1eqz+16JjTbLk, you loose!!! I am not a current Oracle employee and my current employer is using any Oracle product. I just want to expose the hypocrisy at Oracle and the corrupt tribal mentality at Oracle. I want Oracle be successful.
Someone said:
“So you’re an OD rep?! Even worse. During my extensive tenure at oracle every tech OD rep I ever met was a loser - the reason they were in OD in the first place. That, and the fact that you’re trying to sell oracle services is two strikes against you. Finally, the fact that you are hanging out here = strike 3.”
This is mostly true. The only way OD reps make their number is via parasitic means, I.e., “attaching” to or blatantly stealing deals which were cultivated by someone else. In other words, named account reps and SCs do the heavy lifting, and OD sleazes in so they can credit for doing the work. There may be situations where a customer calls and says that they need something simple, like a DB license, where OD can handle it, but anything more complicated and they have no shot. Hence the parasitic, counterproductive behavior.
Finally, after witnessing this behavior for years I can definitively say that any OD rep that claims otherwise is a liar.
Keep this tread alive, like and share. We need to expose Oracle for the good of all the hard working employees, customers, and shareholders. SC/LE are you listening or you one of them?
Better yet, if you have any grit or marketable talent at all then why don’t you find a better job elsewhere instead of thinking you have a prayer of changing things with silly posts here? Or, are you afraid to leave your comfort zone because you are a hanger-on? (10 to 1 it’s the latter)
Keep this tread alive, like and share. We need to expose Oracle for the good of all the hard working employees, customers, and shareholders. SC/LE are you listening or you one of them?
I left Oracle a few years ago when I noticed all of the smart key people were jumping ship, and not just from my organization. I interacted with several BU. The massaging of the numbers in the weekly matrix micro-manager meetings was horrendeous. When I had to interact with support because they didn't have a clue, I couldn't believe how bad it was, platinum customers were furious. And these were multi-million dollar long term accounts, didn't matter, at 5pm PDT push the problem to India, where no follow through was accomplished, so same stupid questions to customer, then come time it was pushed to Romania or Israel and again same wheel turn, asking same questions, like "did you plug it in" ? What version are you using? And this behavior never changed, complaining to higher ups and contacting EVP to complain was a waste of time, because "that is the way it is, and that is what customers pay us for..." (Didn't you ever wonder why there are so many 3rd party Companies offering Oracle Support ?)
As an OD rep this also pisses me off. Everyone fakes bull sh– and talks a big game during their QBRs but the rest of the quarter they f— off. Directors won’t dig in unless they have to. No one wants to rock the boat especially upper management. Get your manager to buy into the bull sh– and you’ll be top of the team. Oracle will destroy anyone’s mental health.
This is so true. One of my friends is an Oracle DBA at a fortune 100 company and he said he gets countless calls from Oracle and when he answers they hang up. He would call the number back and it goes to the Oracle beehive voicemail or whatever. I was so embarrassed that I was a “salesperson” here.
Wow, a “top” OD rep freaking out on the oracle lay-off board —- I think we have the guts for a modern remake of Glengarry Glen Ross here folks!!!!
So you’re an OD rep?! Even worse. During my extensive tenure at oracle every tech OD rep I ever met was a loser - the reason they were in OD in the first place. That, and the fact that you’re trying to sell oracle services is two strikes against you. Finally, the fact that you are hanging out here = strike 3.
Adios! Hahaha
I notice a lot of defensive sales reps in the comments... afraid someone might finally learn about your scam And you’ll be reprimanded🤔
OP, this is the exact reason I left Oracle. I worked I Support, numbers are fake with blessing of VPs, directors, managers. If you don’t do it, you make the team look bad. Oracle can do away with 50% deadwoods.
"You sound angry, defensive and stressed. How come? Problems at home? At work? Trouble making your number?"
Class Of's aren't sales reps. So no, I'm not. I'm actually a sales rep in SMB Cloud Tech.
I hit my number the past two quarters, #1 on my OD CPR team.
when I was a BDC, I usually made 10-15 dials a week to VP/SVP level and knew my territory/the technology really well. I don't know anyone who has sold anything that takes a spam approach. You won't be succesful as a sales rep doing that in cloud tech. You have to actually be smart. Why are you trying to rat out co-workers? why do you care? BDCs are just pains in the a–. You guys just get us blocked from phone lines and email servers trying to blindly hit your volume metric. Sorry, but three-five sentence emails saying you're the account manager aren't valuable. I'd much rather have a BDC who did nothing than a spam-robot. you should probably go to a new company
Re: “Source: I'm a sales rep”
You sound angry, defensive and stressed. How come? Problems at home? At work? Trouble making your number?
.... Unless you're in SaaS, where this is OK. But if you're in engineered systems or cloud tech, you're a lil scrub bro. Hope you hit your number spamming peeps. Source: I'm a sales rep
Are you a “class of” sales rep? Honest question
Congrats on spamming customers with generic messaging, clown. Unfortunately, you'll soon realize that won't prep you for the next role and you're just being a jackass.
Unless you're in SaaS, where this is OK. But if you're in engineered systems or cloud tech, you're a lil scrub bro. Hope you hit your number spamming peeps. Source: I'm a sales rep
It isn’t just the “class of” weenies. I was a senior principal tech sales guy at O for many years. Ended up leaving on my own accord as the wheels began to come off. Over time we were asked to spend more and more time filling out dozens of ridiculous reports for all of these proctology inspections/meetings that my boss needed the data for. That, plus logging time against various opps, etc. it got to where we were being called randomly and almost every day for “urgently needed” reporting data, sometimes the same data more than once but in a different format. Because it was such a complete joke and such a colossal waste of time I compensated by simply making stuff up. Eg, log random time against sales opps, log random codes for activities, and so on. It never mattered since the managers would just massage whatever they got anyway. Meanwhile, I would use the reclaimed, now unwasted time, to do my actual job, which was selling, and I was good at that.
This is just one countless examples of the disfunction that drove me out. “Engineering”, “support”, “product management”, “product design”, “product marketing” and “field marketing” were examples of other gross negligence and incompetence. Seems it isn’t improving and the disfunction will continue until they bust the company up and sell it off. The patient is terminal - RIP
- s. deciding the leave oracle was easy, and one of the best decisions of my life. You should do it too.
Lol do you even hit your number?
Don’t worry - once your butt is shown the door and hits the pavement, which won’t be long from now, it will become a non-issue.
HTH