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LRs, Addiction & Mental Health

LR and addictions...

Guessing others in similar boat, so posting. Helps me also to share. I was a highly-functional alcoholic and survived at Cisco on a series of anti-anxiety medications; for a long, long, time (nearly a decade). I am actually very good at presenting (or so I have been told), but am even better when I dialed the combination in with a mixture of whisk-y, coffee; and for the big presentations, an extra Xanax above the normal daily anti-anxiety co-----l. This was all ingested incognito, no one suspected anything all those years. Guessing a few can relate. Presenting remotely was particularly a blessing. I did the above for a long time, not every presentation or group meeting, but many; (dozens). Especially for big presentations, I would go over the slides on my own, for hours, and read them out loud. Very nervous but was good at it. After I left with LR (no not due to the drink and meds), and got counseling, I realized how messed up I was, and am now completely clean.

Why am I writing this? Writing is part of the cure. I am guessing, others stressed out with the LR cycle also many do similar daily coping techniques, especially right now with yet another LR cycle, with relying heavy on alcohol and medication just to get through difficult days. I was highly functional and articulate on my regiment; and was lying to myself and my family, on how much I was really struggling.

In the end, the LR was the best thing that happened to me to help get clean. The irony is no one really saw a problem, as I was functional. I have told a select few after the fact; that is also part of the addiction journey. When the stress was gone with leaving, the behavior changed for good. Very tough. I do believe it is genetic, as I still crave drinking, but at least now I can at the very least be away from an environment that is not the most healthy for someone with similar tendencies.

If this resonates, you are not alone.

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@1fta+1ublIC46

Addiction has a big genetic component, so many of us afflicted are pre-determined to lapse into addictive behaviors. Not every addict is a weak pushover or self-absorbed high-maintenance person looking to be a burden towards others. Many addictions start when a person is placed in a very tough position they don't want to be in, and have no control over. If you think that is being a pushover, I would challenge you to go through the same scenarios that person went through. My addictions began in the military, two to three packs of cigarettes a day; and we fermented our own alcohol beverages. It was a coping technique, and very necessary given the circumstances. Once that trigger is there, and used, just to get by to the next day, the next week; the next month...it is now part of your personality. It is indeed a cruddy crutch, but recommend those who deem we are weak, or narcissists; to really try to look at the circumstances. You have to be put into a really bad situation to fully understand limitations. Sometimes the very strongest mentally, end up doing the most mental behaviors; especially in life or death military messes.

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@1fta+1ublIC46

Agreed, only an addict can choose to quit. It's an individual decision.
Addiction is a dangerous feedback loop. It's only promoted by associations. People, places, things.

If you are employed in a workplace that indirectly encourages or rewards this type of behavior, why stop?
As OP said, they were abusing drink and xanax to survive presentations. They were received with positive feedback by their peers. To an functioning addict, this is a successful outcome. Why change the formula?

The first step is for an individual to recognize they have a problem.
This becomes difficult when they are in a feedback loop. If the individual is associating with people, places, or things that only encourage the use of substances to survive, why quit?

The individual needs to take back control of their life and well being. Substances also cloud our minds, making it difficult to keep a clear head and make rational decisions.

Most addicts usually do not consider quitting or making life changes until they hit bottom.

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Post ID: @1apc+1ublIC46

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Post ID: @1bmo+1ublIC46

That’s why remaining pot-valiant is so important!

Do dr-gs, guzzle alcohol , sniff every possible powder you can find, pop pills of every description and blame it on something or someone else. Every addict has a s-b story. Look around at Cisco and elsewhere - almost anyone whose job means anything is under unbearable stress. I left Cisco for a FAANG spin off. You think I don’t have stress? Think I use alcohol and dr-gs as an excuse to deal with it? Think again.

I know it’s politically correct to sympathize and empathize with addicts because they apparently have a “problem “. I have addicts among my close family members. Fact is, the only problem any of them have is themselves. They are selfish to an infinite degree and think of nothing but only their selfish needs. They don’t think what their addiction does to their close family members, their parents, kids, partners. They just think the world revolves around them and everyone has to be in their corner because they have a “problem “. Fk that! Grow the fk up and behave like a responsible adult.

You and only you are responsible for your addiction. Cisco, as bad as it may or may not be, is not responsible for it. We all worked or still work there. None of us had to deal with the BS via substance abuse.

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Post ID: @1fta+1ublIC46

My ex coworker witnessed someone at the Tasman SJ campus blow their brains out in the parking lot, taking their own life instantly. Never heard anyone mention it again. Was time to reconsider my career at csco afterwards.

Mental health and well being are overlooked and more important than we all realize.

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Post ID: @1bil+1ublIC46

Thanks for sharing.

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Post ID: @1xsh+1ublIC46

I too would spend hours rehearsing presentations. Now I spend maybe an hour. I've dealt with anxiety and depression for decades. No cure. No meds. No addiction to substances. It gets hard most days, as you know. Keep up the great progress on your journey.

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Post ID: @1xcp+1ublIC46

ge-z...you're not unique. this happens in every company, every industry, every demographic. Add yet-to-recover narcissist to your list.

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Post ID: @1gmz+1ublIC46

You sound like my current project mgr. The dude is a total wacko. Someone said he suffers from bipolar disorder.

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Post ID: @1dkf+1ublIC46

Must be an ex TAC engineer

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Post ID: @1hic+1ublIC46

Welcome to Cisco AA meeting.

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Post ID: @1txl+1ublIC46

Same deal. Thanks for sharing. Hoping I can follow your lead.

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Post ID: @1nxl+1ublIC46

I got LRd in 2019- drink 2/3rds less!
If u have an issue- put up your hand!

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Post ID: @1bmk+1ublIC46

I’m so sorry you had to resort to extreme measures just to function at work with what has become an ever increasingly toxic environment. It’s just so sad.

Cisco used to be a place I was proud of and found a great deal of satisfaction in interpersonal relationships, team dynamics, learning, and challenging projects. It has done a 180 over the past 10-15 years.

I’m glad you survived and are on the road to recovery.

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Post ID: @1fxt+1ublIC46

+1

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