With all these cuts happening and the likely chance that I will be let go in the coming weeks has all but k–led my motivation. Is anyone else feeling the same way? I feel that even if I am not let go now it's only a matter of time until I am and until then, I'll be asked to put out max effort for months and months. The entire scenario just makes me want to leave but then I won't get a severance so I'm stuck waiting to be laid off.
I'm regretting ever choosing to work for Honeywell.
I’m in coast mode for the foreseeable future until i land somewhere else that values my skillsets.
1st off, there are jobs. I was laid off and got one quickly. The FAA, Northrup, helicopter and rocket/missile companies are hiring like crazy. The only thing you must be willing to do is move. So start thinking about where you would like to live next.
Tip, learn how to apply on Usajobs and you can find many offerings even to the general public. You don't need to be a profession engineer if you have 10 years of experience. Pay is lower but the benefits are stunning. This is where you can look for engineer positions at Luke AFB.
Taking a quote from Homer Simpson, "If you don't like your job, you don't go on strike. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed – that's the American way."
Don't get mad and quit, but don't try too hard either. If you're based in the US you're likely to get laid off soon regardless of your performance. Some people take stuff way too personally. This isn't all about about you. This is about moving headcount out of the US where labor and healthcare costs are high and getting rid of unwanted business units and groups that don't align with HON's new business vision. HON is not letting this crisis go to waste. The only thing that really matters right now is saving $.
@1tsb+15tZOvTV
HR TROLL BEGGING PEOPLE TO STAY.......WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I WAS DUMPED ON, USED AND ABUSED AND FORCED TO QUIT FOR THE SAKE OF MY MENTAL AND PHYSICAL HEALTH? WTF EVER!!!
Y'ALL, DON'T LISTEN TO THIS BULLSH&T! THEY DON'T GIVE A RATS A– ABOUT YOU. LOOK OUT FOR YOURSELVES AND DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO FOR SAKE OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILIES
For those that are advicing to quit Honeywell, please do be considerate and responsible to those comments. Although it may appear as a personal opinion, it may also influence some to actually quit their job. The job market is not as kind these days especially an economic gloom weighing over. This is the first time for many years that such an economic slum has been experienced before. Despite many commentaries comparing this dilemma with that of the Great Depresssion and Spanish Flu is entirely wrong. With the changing landscape over time, what happened then and now is completely different. Wouldn't you think that there would be some contingency plans by the government if it was the same? It isn't and that is why countries are in a quandry as to how to revive their country's economy.
It is not as easy to secure a job as you might think. Stick with what you have and hope you do not get RIF'd. Work and hang on to this job to the best you can until job oppurtunities gets better.
@1txh
Allied Signal 70,400 (1999) + Honeywell 57,000 (1999) = 127,400 Employees at Merger. We were both wrong. I was more wrong than you.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1999/06/08/alliedsignal-to-buy-honeywell/3a73a778-a357-4e6e-8484-0c2ade2a0a18/
Thanks for the replies everyone. I thought the RIFs would stop at some point but now I'm realizing how naive I was to think this. This company doesn't grow, it shrinks and shows "gains". Addition by subtraction. I will need the advice of Tired Director and just do as little as I can get away with while I find my next employer and then I can get out of Honeywell for good. I'll use them as a highlight on my resume, but my allegiance to this company is 100% done.
Slacking off and cruising just makes things work. Best case you get away with it and waste your time looking for ways to get out of work. Worse case they notice you and flag you as detrimental to your department and you increase your chances of getting laid off. The middle road is to look for new skills to train in or other areas you can go work in. Certify in stamping, wet process training,
fork lift license, inspection, or other areas so you can add that to your resume. If you are working on product A and they need help with product B, volunteer to help so you can add experience on another product line to your resume. If you are a manager and can help in another line, same thing. The wider the experience base you can put on your resume, the more attractive you are outside. If you have a record of helping out where needed and pursuing more training that shows the kind of attitude companies will be looking for. You will have a lot of competition with all the others being RIF'd so this is an opportunity to grow your resume.
When HON has laid off int he past they sent work out to other shops who don't have the support structure HON has, so showing you are aggressive about training and learning new skills and helping where needed can't hurt and should help. Look at this as a way you can take
back some control of your career by making yourself more desirable as a prospect to another company and just spinning your wheels, which gets you nothing. This is not just Honeywell, it is the way the world of jobs is moving - constant volatility and outsource of jobs so that job security is virtually gone all over the labor market for good paying jobs.Always be preparing for the worst, IE training and learning, and start stashing some cash away each paycheck to cover situations like this. Because things have been getting more volatile for the last 20 years and that will only continue in the job market. Always be training for your next job, that is about the only security left. Anyone who
tells you to lay down and dog it is only interested in getting back at the company, and has no interest in you or your prospects.
I would not quit without a better job offer in front of me. Use the time to save and prepare. A new job could turn out to be another lay off scenario s wave & shutdown as example) which leaves you in even worse shape. So just make sure you think things through and know the risks before leaving. If you really need to leave try the voluntary if possible so you can get paid to go hunting a new job.
@1ilr+15tZOvTV. Get your story straight.
In 2000 the headcount was 125000 with sales of 25B. Not 180k employees.
Read the annual reports. 2019 was 113,000 employees genersting 36B in sales.
The big difference you feel is that only 40% of those employees are now in the US.
Roughly 60000 jobs were offshored by honeywell.. a move that dramatically raised profit.
More data 2001 to 2019 here: https://investor.honeywell.com/Archived-Reports
Note ... sales of 25B in 2000 is equivalent to sales of 37B in 2020 after adjusting for inflation.
Honeywell has shown zero to negative sales growth in this time period. The dramatic increase in profit margin is attributable solely to cost cutting. Use an inflation calculator to check my math. All these CEOs are blowing smoke while we get out innovated because of cost cutting.
well of all the posts the HR spies read, I hope they read this one.
The problem is that becoming disengaged like you are, is a LOGICAL and even HEALTHY response.
I think the best advice for you is ... don't let a bad experience at this job ruin you. Stay motivated NOT for the job or the company, but to see what you can learn, do, put on your resume, meet good people, etc.
You do not have to sincerely love or respect the company in order to do a minimum professional job at whatever it is that you do.
Please do NOT lose all motivation. Keep your motivation for your future. Start job hunting and, like all of us, try to choose better next time. Now that you have been in a POS company, you will know better what to look for.
Hang in and don't let this bring you down.
THIS IS business as usual at Honeywell! It has been since the Merger of Allied Signal and Honeywell. The combine head count was 180K in January 2000. This doesn't stop, it will accelerate. Get out NOW! You have been warned.
Motivation is at an all time low... absolutely. I really do love the people I work with and my managers. My managers are feeling horrible about the possibility of cutting some of our team loose, and stressing over their own job. I know a lot of you guys had bad experiences with Honeywell, but some of us really want this to be over and get back to business as usual.
Do the bare minimum.
If they like you, they will keep you regardless. If they don't, nothing you will do will change that in the short-term.
Make a choice to spend your time learning as much as you can and get your resume out there. Honeywell is the same as it was 15 years ago and this is just expediting the inevitable circumstances in corporate know how or lack there of.
I feel your pain and its happening all over....my fear is who else will hire me with such a specific skill set?? joining linked in i think, just to see whats where. I will continue until i cannot, or i am riffed, then I will take some time to breathe and smell the flowers. NDT is a short, course, like a week, certificate is forever, Honeyhell may pay for it, or reimburse...
Rif today means easy job openings tomorrow after they learn to value the position
For as long as you can, stick with it. I made the mistake and allowed myself to get so fed up and so stressed out that I just quit. And yes, when they say the work of 12 people, that is dead on the money. I gave it all I had and then some, but it didn't matter. Even when I fell ill from the pressure induced anxiety, they were more concerned about when I would return. Don't end up like me and throw away almost 15 years of blood, sweat and tears by quitting and not getting any severance. That, my friend, is my single most biggest mistake because I will never be compensated. Hang in there and rooting for you!
You're still working. While you are working there look for new skills to learn which would make you more attractive in the outside market. Hedge your bet. That could help you get a job outside if your laid off, or get a better job inside if you survive. Don't let the opportunity to increase your skills pass by because the near term looks dismal. Put the time to good use to improve your prospects.
Just do the bare minimum. There’s nothing you can do to control the outcome of your employment situation at Honeywell. There are predetermined quotas, favorite employees, and irrational decision makers at every turn. Hang on tight, keep a polished resume, and just remember that they have a way of keeping people down. Throw your resume out there and see if you get any bites. Chances are you will.
Have some hope. There is a much brighter life outside of Honeywell. Use this time to seek other opportunities and get a head start before you get RIFed. Don't put in max effort - you won't get rewarded for it. You will only get punished by getting no raise, no bonus, and asked to do more and more until you are doing the work of 12 RIFed people.