I'm shocked at how atrocious Cisco's culture and ELT are in these layoffs (in addition to their poor performance, fake crocodile tears, inability to innovate, so on so on). Splunk used to be a much better place, until Gary Steele came into to gut and sell. He even brought his goons who were very similar to the Chuck + Fran duo. None of us wanted to be bought out. We would have blew past 200 on the NASDAQ just from Nvidia doing our job for us. Now, we see how far fetched onboarding was. The benefits cuts. The toxic culture that's coming. Acquired to get ruined. An exodus is coming from Splunk. We're sorry about our acquisition price, but it's all the fault of Gary, the complicit board, and lame duck Chuck.
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Cisco will destroy Splunk.
@1zld+1uzXuuGg your hateful jealousy and inferiority complex is showing :-)
Splunk isn’t “a Cisco company” it is Cisco.
Meraki guys are all the same , butt hurt and betas all day, probably J erk off twice a day to their awesome web console. ITs ok cause those of us who design and matter with the customer will keep quietly guiding them away from that second rate product, while SEs who only care about spiffs or keeping their buddies in jobs push that c rap. Go drink your latte out of your meraki cup or tumbler wearing your meraki shirt cap and golf pullover, we all laugh when we see you.
You talk about Meraki and Cisco, when companies like Ubiquiti or even Mikrotik are devouring that market. They are orders of magnitude cheaper and more capable for the most part. Why would anyone bother with Cisco-Meraki anymore for new deployments? You need to have PhD in Cisconian Licensing and then pay subscriptions for most basic sh-t, whereas with e.g. Mikrotik every hardware SKU gives you same software and license (you can buy same license for a VM, still no subscription), no matter if 1G or 100G switches, AP, SOHO or 19" rackmounted router. The software is streamlimed to the point that should you wish for whatever reason, you can BGP on switches or use APs as firewalls. There are literal ISPs that use Mikrotik as backbone, same for Ubiquiti. There are universities and airports with mesh large coverage wifi's using either of them.
What is a single selling point of Meraki, other than maybe brand recognition?
Cisco's direct competition is nowadays not even Arista or Juniper, but fu--ing 3 guys in a garage in Latvia. Pathetic.
With the training we got internally at Cisco during the Splunk acquisition, it was actually rather eye opening how much there is to it. But for $28 billion? No. However there's quite a lot there, and quite a lot of potential growth with Cisco+Splunk combined. Time will tell if this is the beginning of any mass exodus but I doubt it.
@1lty+1uzXuuGg Hopefully all the Merakians and Splunkers can grow up to be just like you. It is very telling that a Splunk thread spirals into a hate session on Meraki by egotistical a$$wipes who cannot accept the fact that Meraki became a multi-billion dollar BU with sustained double digit YoY growth. This thread is (was) on Splunk, Meraki is old news, let it go Elsa. Meraki never claimed to be better than on-prem, never did and never will have the same extensive feature set, and for the record doesn't make routers, fool. Like it or not, Splunk has a place and Meraki has a place and both BUs have some great people and products. Meraki is one of Cisco's most successful acquisitions, but I'm sure you knew that. Splunk, who knows, probably won't be. If you put down your console cable and opened your mind... well, never-mind. No feelings hurt here, we've already heard all your anti-Meraki talking points before our competitors gave them to you. Thank you in advance for another pompous reply I'm sure you'll hammer out to school everyone with your superior intellect.
Meraki held Cisco back from developing real cloud networking.
Meraki is great for small business or your house if big enough ,but some of us talented engineers like to play with the big boys, real switches and routers. Meraki makes some cute toys and love to go on and on about their awesome web management portal (cough monitor mode). I use TPlink in my house, its fast reliable, secure and easy, the MX and MS junk I was given to demo sets in a box looking pretty but not doing much. Obtw , anyone else notice how merakis get their feelings hurt so easy, cause deep down inside they know they are small fry in a big kitchen.
To the id--t above that said Meraki was cuddled and overhyped - Let’s see, Meraki cost Cisco $1.2B and generates an estimated $5B annually and estimated over $30B since the acquisition. Meraki saved Cisco and likely extended many people’s careers longer than they would have been without it. We can only hope that if you truly even worked for Cisco that someone of your immense talent was LR’ed.
To be fair — this round has been particularly egregious and obviously a rude awakening joining just now. This is the moment everything got different. Hopefully it turns around but prior to this specific round there was nowhere near the company wide dread in any of these round. Cisco has been great to us until now.
Mutual feelings. Not worth a third of the price and most of the teams can and should be automated out of a role next go around. splunk is not a networking company, they are just another stats collector with some analytics. Not too special these days.
Some of us don't care where ya'll come from and just want to make things work better. It gets tiring with all the "us versus them".
A similar, if not identical, response from AppDynamics when Cisco acquired them. There was a mass exodus when the acquisition was finalized and even years later there was this "us vs. them" mentality. Cisco's record of integrating their acquired companies is not a good one.
Trust me we as Cisco don't want to be here either
Two boat anchors tied together sink faster.
We must remember : The fieldmouse is fast, but the owl sees at night.
welcome to the death walk.
Splunk was never great. All my friends there are ex-cisco so they know how both are, and they don't consider it an improvement.
Splunk always was really toxic with a lot bureaucracy. I have a few friends who worked there back in 2019-2021 as software engineers and they told me don't move (I had a few offers at that time) here because we are about to leave this place anyways. Cisco and Splunk both companies provide similar for IC and low level employees.
Too bad, you're a Cisco employee now. Leave if you don't want to be lumped in with us. I don't blame you, it's not good having a legacy company on your CV.
Splunkers are being told be grateful you still have a job. A mo--n who’s very toxic is your new manager. It’s only a matter of time you will be shown the door out.
Hey splunkers, we dont want you either, last thing we need is another overpaid and cuddled company like Meraki which ends up being over hyped. Enjoy your tshirts and A slap parties, you will be looking ragged , sad, defeated and sick like the rest of us soon.
There are still good people that look forward to collaborating with you Splunkers. There are pockets of cancer to be sure, but there are still excellent people here.
Our collective combined Executive Teams all ride in the Clown Car. Inept technology vision fueled by financial payout rather than true innovation. This is what happens when the top persons in power are showpeople and actors, instead of technology leaders. A complete waste of thousands of careers under their tenures.
Too late. Welcome aboard the sinking ship.
to be honest, Cisco layoff severance pkg is good. 4 months pay, 2 months looking for a job.