I got transferred over to xerox with 25 years experience. Supposed to get 6 weeks per xerox vacation time. I get 4 weeks because they are going off when we were bought by GIS. Complete bull sh!t and seems unethical
19 replies (most recent on top)
XBS employee here, received 6 weeks this year from 4 last year. Confirmed with HR is good.
Vacation time is not a legal contract. It’s a company policy and at xerox these policies are changing left and right to financially benefit the profits over the employee. It can be wrong ethically or morally but that is not what Corporate america is about now is it?
@3mkj+18T9lkBs Xerox promised my dad in 63 benefits past retirement and they turned around and took it all away when it benefited them. Again why are people happy to be treated this way? Xerox has run its course. No one is making anyone stay there. My exit plan was enacted in 2017and I got out in late 2019. It’s hard. It’s messy. It hurts and it’s something I didn’t want to do. But xerox owed me nothing anymore. They were going to keep taking away. Taking away. Taking away.... fool me once and all that.
I don’t blame the person asking for what they think they are due.
@3qrh+18T9lkBs I bet they asked for more than minimum wage too, the b–tard. The nerve of some people expecting to receive the benefits that the company promised them.
So says an artist pr1ck
No one needs 6 weeks of vacation days. That's literally 2 months out of every year you are not there as you only need to take vacation days on the weekdays. Retire if you need that much time off. What you're b–ching about is ridiculous.
There’s a difference between 25 years of experience, and 1 year of experience repeated 24 times. If you’ve been a technician your entire career it’s the later. Staying in the same role for decades devalues your worth
@1ocx+18T9lkBs Fair point. I was referring specifically to groups like XBS since the referenced thread was for a software engineering role. There may be other corners of the company that are still decent.
That’s not entirely true - I don’t really belong to either group you mention and the immediate circumstances (personal and professional) benefit me now. I expect some of those will change in the near future and hope I can continue to keep my current position until that happens. It’s absolutely a risk (layoffs, having to deal with the “why did you stay there so long” stigma) but it’s a calculated one. I’m sure plenty of folks will feel differently and scream to get out, and they could even be right, but I’m very conscious of my circumstances and the risk involved. If it works out, I’ll be leaving on my own terms and highly advantaged. If they lay me off sooner, no harm, they’ve just hurried my decision and I lost my bet on sticking around awhile longer.
I also have come to realize that folks experience is highly dependent on your team/unit. Based on what I see here, if I were in an XBS Unit/Core I’d have left already.
I think the recent thread about what Xerox has become sums it up well. Frankly the only people that work at Xerox anymore are those who either can't get in anywhere else or who have been stuck in the company for so long that for whatever reason they can't bring themselves to leave which eventually makes them part of the first group anyways.
@1wtj fair point, I see what you mean re: agreeing
@1haj This has been an issue for decades. Xerox people felt part of a family and as such thought they would be ‘saved’ and taken care of. There are hundreds of people who should have been let go due to performance where bad managers protected them for feeling sorry for them or they were ‘good pals’. It’s a toxic relationship alright It sounds like @tse is agreeing with you, posing the question of why people are staying and not suggesting the company owes them anything.
Not at the original poster but at @tse: I get your point but unless you luck out with some small private firm, your job isn’t your family. It isn’t your friend. It’s a transaction. It would be amazing if this wasn’t true - We’d all love to believe we mattered, someone cared, but we, as a society, have given that up. It’s the bottom line and nothing else. Anything they do nice for you is because they know they’ll get more value out of you than they spent on you.
Xerox is bad - worse - than plenty of places where the company is fat and happy, but you’re setting yourself up for failure to believe there’s a C-Suite out there that really cares about you beyond what profit you can generate in the next quarter or year.
Don’t love a company. Its incapable of loving you back. A CEO that would pay you before paying a shareholder because “you were family” would get run out of Wall St.
Get out of Xerox to find a better deal for yourself because this one ain’t great - but never believe it’s anything more than a deal -or you’re going to be disappointed again.
They stopped the 6 weeks of vacation before xerox purchased GIS. If you were hired after after a certain date you only got a max of 4 weeks. Tenured employees were grandfathered in.
Might be a great opportunity to do something on the side or after hours. Not for everyone but for those able/open to a unique point of view- plug your nose, don’t lift anything heavy, and until they walk you out think deeeeep thoughts.
They are doing everything to prove to you that you don’t matter to them. Not singling you out. I mean every employee. Would you let a friend treat you this way. Or a member of your family or a spouse? This is a toxic relationship that will not get better. So why are people staying? The answer I get it ‘they can pay me til they walk me out the door’. Well ok but who are you spiting? Others are taking jobs you could be lining yourself up for. If not now - when?
Typical of HR and Senior Management handling of employee benefits in todays
toxic Xerox environment.
In before Don't Be A Sheep guy whines that people are overreacting about being screwed again. To the OP, while not legally wrong it's definitely unethical behavior. Good companies have a grandfather clause to cover such situations properly.