Anyone notice in pictures of RTO that people are not wearing masks while in conference rooms sitting right next to each other? Also in counties with mask mandates for indoor areas the bank is not requiring you to wear mask while at desk which goes against county/state requirements?
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@3mnu+1cR2TWP9 RTO plans are nothing more than an attempt to drive up attrition, and you are full of sh-t if you don’t see that
@3vsm+1cR2TWP9 Doesn’t that suck or are you one of the smiling happy poster boys on Flagscape?
I'm back in the office....masks are worn except when you are at your desk. Managers are quick to call out anyone that doesn't have a mask.
“You support remote work but you are posting on here arguing with us who are advocating for flexible work arrangements??” @2wcj+1cR2TWP9
I support remote work in some cases at the Bank such as medical reasons or certain roles, but most of you just want remote work for comfort reasons. Given the Bank is heavily regulated especially since 2008 there are data and privacy concerns with mass remote work. External and internal auditors also have raised flags in some cases.
Many of you use Covid as your excuse but as I pointed out Covid hasn’t stopped you from enjoying indoor settings at restaurants, malls, stores, theaters, bars, etc.
So what’s the real reason? Unvaccinated Kids? Low risk of harm and besides vaccine approval for young kids is coming soon, what will your new excuse be then?
If you want to request remote or hybrid then go ahead but if it gets denied then stop complaining and just accept it. Nobody’s forcing you to work at the bank, you choose to. The bank has been very clear on its stance on RTO. Not just this Bank but many others that will be returning soon.
Vaccinated and only wear a mask if someone bugs me about it. Life goes on, I no longer living in fear. If you are vaccinated and get sick, the symptoms are mild like a cold. Still would rather WHF most of the time and not waste 1.5 Horus a day commuting.
You support remote work but you are posting on here arguing with us who are advocating for flexible work arrangements??
“We are an in the office company” is a cheap empty slogan. We don’t need to be in an office 8 hrs day / 5 days a week to interact with colleagues. Honestly if the Bank would back off of the 5 days/week in the office stance then most would be happy because 1. You would be limiting office capacity, and 2. Giving people the work/life balance they are asking for.
BofA can set their own rules but they are not going to be a successfully run company with an unhappy demoralized rank and file. I suspect they will eventually bow to the masses and allow some real flexible work schedules.
You’re wrong! Most of the vaccinated folks are the ones that have taken the pandemic seriously. Like the one person in a group project that does all the work. Individuals will get the virus and either fall ill or die. Fauci has already talked about a (monster variant) recently. The immunity for those that received the vaccine is deteriorating. The fall will bring on some tough times.
Science is real! The bank is responsible for ensuring a safe working environment. They are currently being negligent. Keep your receipts. Pictures/emails
"I understand this is “at will” employment but we still deserve a voice in this. I’m not real clear what point you’re trying to prove on here and why you are so staunchly supporting the Bank’s positions, because regardless of what you think, it’s a fact that morale is tanking right now because of it." - @2vmo+1cR2TWP9
I'm not anti-remote work by any means, in fact I support it. You have to be living under a rock though if you don't think the Bank has been VERY clear with people on its stance on RTO. "We are a work from office company", all the emails, all the downstream communication, seriously "your area"? What area of the Bank hasn't heard this, don't answer that.
Yes you can voice your frustration and opinions at the same time the Bank has been super clear on their stance with all employees, not just recently but many many months ago.
"Unless you're spending 8 hours/day, 5 days/week in restaurant, it's not really comparable." @2ljh+1cR2TWP9
D-mbest thinking skills lol. Yeah I don't think it takes 8 hours/5 hrs a day to get covid. Besides, if you were to add up the total time people are spending out in public the risk is even higher. So what's the real point here? That people just don't want to resume their work in-office, not so much out of fear of covid. Do you think restaurants, malls, theaters, etc are verifying people's vaccination before you enter? Yeah not really lol
Yes my kids get the flu vaccine every year and no we don’t live in a bubble, but thanks for your concern.
I don’t agree that the Bank has been transparent about RTO, at least not in our area. I’ve yet to hear a compelling case as to why they feel it’s so necessary to have full offices again at the time. Again, BofA’s stance has been an outlier.
I understand this is “at will” employment but we still deserve a voice in this. I’m not real clear what point you’re trying to prove on here and why you are so staunchly supporting the Bank’s positions, because regardless of what you think, it’s a fact that morale is tanking right now because of it.
@1inu+1cR2TWP9 Unless you're spending 8 hours/day, 5 days/week in restaurant, it's not really comparable.
"Each of us have different risk appetites right now driven by unique circumstances so you shouldn’t judge nor should the Bank. I’m vaxxed but it’s been 5 months since my 2nd shot. We are still very mindful about limiting time in high risk indoor places where possible due to my kids. How am I supposed to know what my immunity level is now? What about my unvaxxed young kids?"
Do you make sure your kids get the flu vaccine each year? I doubt it, and the flu ki--s 50-70k people a year in the US. The workplace nor schools have never been bacteria/virus free, risk is never 0 and every winter the risk gets higher for anyone not living in a bubble. You actually weaken your immune system by sheltering and living in a bubble.
Yeah people's risk tolerance is different but that can be said about anything. The vaccines will be made available to young kids as soon as October, but kids that young have little illness with covid as has been proven in many cases. The Bank allows exemptions in certain unique circumstances, but the vast majority of you don't qualify for those unique circumstances. You're just people not wanting to resume regular work duties in-office, other banks like Wells Fargo are also returning later this year and gradually reopening some are already bank in small groups like JPM.
Nobody's forcing you to come to the office, you choose to come to the office and choose to work at the bank. The Bank has been very transparent about RTO.
RTO should be delayed until community spread is much lower. Point is that it should be an individual choice to work where we are most comfortable, which is what most companies are allowing. If you want to be in the office so bad, have at it and go troll someplace else.
Each of us have different risk appetites right now driven by unique circumstances so you shouldn’t judge nor should the Bank. I’m vaxxed but it’s been 5 months since my 2nd shot. We are still very mindful about limiting time in high risk indoor places where possible due to my kids. How am I supposed to know what my immunity level is now? What about my unvaxxed young kids?
You sound like a child. The Bank has to follow OSHA standards and guidelines. Covid safety measures have been communicated to employees and each employee agrees to adhere. Failure to comply is a violation. What you think is safe and what the law requires are two different things.
It's as safe as you going a restaurant, if not safer. Do you complain this much at restaurants, malls, theaters, stores about covid safety? Or are you just being a hypocrite? Like someone else said the workplace has never been germ/bacteria/virus free. Safety doesn't mean 100% safe.
Most responsible and well run companies have seen this coming and at least delayed RTO until after fall.
You’re wrong! Most of the vaccinated folks are the ones that have taken the pandemic seriously. Like the one person in a group project that does all the work. Individuals will get the virus and either fall ill or die. Fauci has already talked about a (monster variant) recently. The immunity for those that received the vaccine is deteriorating. The fall will bring on some tough times.
Science is real! The bank is responsible for ensuring a safe working environment. They are currently being negligent. Keep your receipts. Pictures/emails
@1owo+1cR2TWP9 If the Bank is going to mandate RTO then it is ultimately their responsibility to ensure compliance with workplace protocols, mask wearing and social distancing. So far there isn’t any evidence of this is multiple offices.
Employees working in retail branches throughout the pandemic were given hazard bonuses so the Bank could maintain adequate staffing to keep branches open which is a federal regulation.
Most of us are back office and do not see any benefit against the risks of being back in the office so it’s an apples to oranges comparison to FLUs who have to be there.
The employer has, it's your job to adhere. People not wearing a mask in common areas are violating the safety rules. There's going to be no serious lawsuits, plenty of employees have been working through the pandemic in retail across industries. You've been eating at restaurants, traveling, and going shopping right? That's what I thought.
@kyb+1cR2TWP9 Actually it’s an employers responsibility to provide safe working conditions. The neglect is apparent by leadership. This is a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I highly doubt many of you aholes follow all the CDC guidelines while your out at the grocery store, movie theater, mall, restaurants, social gatherings, etc. It's the same reason why you aholes don't exhibit the guidelines at work. It's not the Bank's fault you won't follow safety measures.
Get use to it you hypocrites, many more people will be returning to the office with you.
Charlotte site is not adhering to safety protocols.
Employees and leadership at desks not wearing a mask and these associates are in Charlotte NC which currently has a mask mandate for indoors for ALL businesses.
At least feel confident that if something does happen to an employee in the office we all have lots of evidence that safety protocols/CDC guidelines/state guidelines are not being followed because they literally email out the pictures of violations. So would be very easy to prove the bank was negligent.
On a leadership call with > 1k participants, someone called out one of the California sites as not adhering to social distancing and masks mandates and didn't feel safe. But the leader was fully prepared with HR on lifeline to field the question and repeat that they are following all safety precautions and would "look into it".
No masks anywhere in my office. Not seated, not while walking around, nothing. Also of course no social distancing. They don’t care and clearly the directive from the top is that it’s not really important.
This Recall to office is mo--nic
Yes! We had a webex call with video chat today and several people in conference room together not wearing masks. No enforcement being done and if you are talking about email from CB replacement today those individuals are the LEADERS not wearing masks sitting next to each other in conference room.
They REALLY DONT CARE!