I need to use an office exemption next week, how is it being counted? Is it one day for one office exemption day?
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Found out I had three bad car tires on Monday afternon. Sent an email requesting office exemptions for the rest of the work week. Replaced all 3 tires that Sat. Sent the pic to manager w just proper record keeping. Reduced the denominator for RTO days which was a consolation prize for tire purchase.
@4wru, show us a link with even a hint of these so-called tax breaks. We had some deals with local govs 2 decades ago but nothing now.
It breaks my heart to see adult employees being treated so disgustingly about RTO te---r hourly lack of clarification and being used against you.
It really truly does. Just awful. Are you not humiliated??? Geezus H.
My experience is that if RV/EC want to fire you in order to take your pay, your bonus and match, THEY WILL.
The treating the RTO-record keeping scare tactics on you all is like romper room punishment - and is a disgusting pathetic thing to do to adults; clearly being treated like cattle.
I left last year, and I am just so sad to see and read what I am reading. Just gross.
to state the obvious, 41 doesn’t even work at the bank anymore so he has no idea what’s going on
Also to state the obvious, productivity had nothing to do with RTO. It’s all about corporate tax breaks for having butts in the seats in the city and trying to keep the real estate market propped up.
It's funny to see people equate WFH with not working. All this vitriol - telling people to shut up and just do their jobs or to work harder to impress managers - when really, some people are working super hard, trying to impress, and getting ZERO in return. A manager in my chain - higher than my direct manager - said that exceeding expectations is the expectation so it is virtually impossible to get an exceeds. If you fail to exceed you get a below expectations. So very little incentive to go above and beyond. While WFH, the traditional office hours eroded. Expectations were 8-7. With the commute that would put me leaving home at 6:30/6:45 for 8 and not home until 8:15/8:30. That is just not sustainable. And when you add in gas and tolls (especially for a COIVD hire) then it's really like taking a pay cut to have to go in so often - when hired, HR "promised" it would be hybrid and very flexible because leadership recognized the benefits and value. But days that long, with the commute, aren't healthy.
It is also not commensurate with the level of compensation received. If the man way at the top wants this to be Goldman (which I don't btw) and sets those as his expectations then he needs to pay accordingly. Add the new word of the day "Agile" and all the consultant (ahem, accenture, ahem) cr-p "Platform Operating Model" - which is NOT working, despite the BS being slung on my source - and its a recipe for disaster. Unfortunately, I am not close enough to retirement to not be completely stressed out by this. And the more BS is slung the more stressful it gets. A former colleague asked if I would put in a good word for a job they are looking to apply for and I really don't want to as a result.
And, let's not delude ourselves, if someone doesn't want to work hard, being in the office doesn't change that. They can be distracted, procrastinate, do little to no work, surf the internet on their phones, make bad decisions, etc. - all from the office. WFH has nothing to do with it. Slackers are slackers at home or in the office. For those are are just as productive - and yes, some of us are more so - from home it is just short sighted to make everyone so unhappy and treat us like children.
Dusting off my resume seems like it might be the only solution - unless we are lucky enough to get a change in leadership for someone who isn't completely incompetent.
Most likely at some point yes the way exceptions are handled will probably be changed. This is why if someone has a reason to use it and their manager is ok with it they should use it. Take advantage of the little bit of perks we do have while we have them. Because from my experience this company is good with perks that don’t cost them extra. So instead of better raises and bonuses we get office exceptions. I don’t think any of my friends have this. They either have more trusting flexibility (in office days not tracked) or better raises and bonuses than us.
I suspect that eventually there will be a limit to the number of in office exceptions one can use. Or that they will be held against us in some way. After all, every day we are not in the office is a day we are not improving our workplace culture. And our communities will benefit too, with increased food and gasoline sales, parking lot revenue, and of course an increase in mass transit revenues. We are better when we are together, in person, every day. (1)
(1) Sorry, I am sensing this could be a future sound bite coming to an email account near you.
Hey boomer! Why are you associating working from home with the minimal amount of work being completed? Working from home has nothing to do with working less. It’s only avoiding the commute. We are completely paperless. We don’t do any filing. All signatures are done digitally. There’s nothing we need to be in the office for. Our managers aren’t even in the same state. Wake up and join the 21st century!
@1twa Is me. Forgot to say it deducts from the total number of days available to go in. So if you have 20 days available that will turn into 19 days available for one exception. So you’d have to go in 60% of 19 days. If you put in a whole week that’s 60% of 15 days or 9 in office days. It’s in the employees favor so you round down.
You can use as many as your manager is willing to approve. There’s no limit. So just have a conversation with your manager before you decide to use them so you have no surprises if they don’t get approved.
This place gives me their minimum so I’ll do the same
Why is 41 on this board still yappin when he no longer works at this dump ?
Hey @1acm+1saqnHuy - easy there ki-ler.... He just asked how it worked. Relax.
They just count that day as non-working day for RTO calculation.
Here’s another idea… stop trying to focus on the minimum amount of work that you can do without getting displaced and start trying to impress your manager with deliverables.
With this simple adjustment the world is your oyster.
By the way, this is also known as a “Can Do”, i.e. .adopt a Boomer attitude. Your career will skyrocket.
A slacker and a quitter are twins.
Here’s an idea—ask your manager.
Its whatever the days excluding weekends , vacations and holidays times .6. Heres a thought. How about pretend you cant work from home and actually do your job .. you know in office like you were hired then maybe the rest of us wouldnt get babysat
It factors the exception days. I think how it works is that, each reporting period, we have 20 days in total(normal cases) and then 20 multiple by 0.6,which is 12 days, and then if you have one exception day in one reporting period, it will be (20-1)*0.6=11.4 as far as I observed, they only take the whole number of days, 11.4 means 11 days in office with one exception day. I tried once, even 9.8 means 9 days.hope this is helpful