Return to office is supposed to be company wide but I guarantee this is not being implemented everywhere!
We have a construction and engineering warehouse in west Texas that is housing about 80 or so managers and couple of second lines that somehow pulled some strings so they didn't have to RTO!!!
They even paid to remodel second floor to acclimated them even though there was a building down town that used to be a call center but because they had to pay for parking the company paid to remodel a warehouse!!!
How is that fair to the rest of us being asked to move to Dallas or Atlanta!!!
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remember the needs of the business and these are people who critical to the function of the company. so they can work from anywhere,
lmao can't say with a straight face. remember friends and family.
I have 4 coworkers in Dallas/Atlanta and only 2 of us are going into the office. I have no idea what the other 3 are doing or what plan they have worked out with my boss. So RTO is not being enforced like it was originally stated
Yep, we have a couple located outside a hub city. The only two in that city and their letter states VO. They no longer have to report to the office they previously went to daily before COVID. After the all clear we went to the office once a month. These two also did. Now 100% VO. I cannot figure out why they got VO. They are not in ATS, so no wave 1,2,3 for them. They don’t have any special talent or skills.
I know a group of people under JW who have showed up to the office maybe three times since the mandatory RTO - they said they don’t care and no one is tracking
As McFresh famously put it: "the peanut butter won't be spread evenly"
This is just another ham-handed layoff and of course it affects some people more than others. That's just the T way.
RTO has no “fairness” requirement for it to be implemented by the company.
$50k to stay 6 months to train your offshore replacement, then adios. You did the right thing to leave.
Exceptions are being made to allow those in crtical positions to continue to WFH. Our team had a significant number of people who were unable/unwilling to relocate. We did not lose any team members, and most will continue to work from home. The RTO initiative is like an onion, many layers of lies.
I got a call from an SVP on Friday offering a $50,000 bonus to stay (would have to stay at least 6 months). I declined;
Good for you, man. Sc--w them, and thank you for standing up for yourself, and what's right!
Two coworkers and I managed a complex software system in the company that implements AT&T intellectual property - it deals with prospecting and enterprise level solution implementation. It creates between 150M and 200M a year in increased revenue. The two coworkers were laid off, leaving me as the only one, and I received RTO orders to Dallas, which I declined.
There is nobody left to run this system, and it requires a fair amount of upkeep to stay integrated with external feeds. They finally realized this after I declined RTO. I'm now within two weeks notice and I got a call from an SVP on Friday offering a $50,000 bonus to stay (would have to stay at least 6 months). I declined; I have another position lined up at another company. The next day (Saturday) I got a call on my PERSONAL mobile phone from the same SVP, which I sent to voicemail and they are asking me to call again. I will not.
This entire thing has been such a train wreck and they don't have the SLIGHTEST clue of what's walking out the door.
There isn’t one mention anywhere In the OP of a financial or any other group and by he/she stating that it’s a C&E warehouse that was remodeled, one would assume it is C&E and/or other outside customer facing managers. More information should be forthcoming if that is the case, details matter.
2 different scenarios, they are either customer facing managers or RTO employees. If the latter then you should take it up the chain, sounds discriminatory to me and HR/Legal should be involved. Especially when other employees are forced into decisions to relocate their families and sell their homes to report miles or states away, to their new destination or quit.
- Clearly this is a masked layoff
- But this masked layoff, is a gamble with unpredictable outcome (who exactly is gonna leave? Nobody knows yet, at the moment very few, why?, read below)
- An honest deep layoff should've been the way to go, there's plenty of fat to trim
- At the moment there are no real effects cause EVERYONE is lying and this is enforced only by some du****ss managers(the company "educated" the majority on lying, but there are some rebels
- ALL of this is enforcing the lying attitude the company thinks you steal, thus you steal, no real trust because of some bad apples(maybe). An unfortunate cycle.
- All bosses are owners of their "domains" soo it is what they say it is, if someone corects them .. and it is not a security or HR violation, they'll be just fine, you not
7 Politics , political correctness(i say that being a trump hater) is taking our company in a unsustainable direction sadly, BUT economical realities kick in
Cut the red tape, inspire fight in the employees, and they'll fight, to have an economically viable employer
I love ATT, but not like it is now, this forum shows employees with fight but without a way to channel this in the proper direction
You got to work from home and I I never did so your not fair either.
RTO is all about consolidation of real estate and firing employees. The rest is window dressing.
original poster is saying that those 80 or so managers ARE NOT PART OF C AND E!!
They are some financial group being housed in a C and E warehouse that was remodeled!
Yes I heard of this group also just not sure what they do!
Definitely NOT techs or Tech managers!!!
Quick look at Stankey & Legg. Still in different cities? Remote from each other? Yes?
Check.
Still hosting calls with consultants in the IST time zone, yes?
Check.
Once again we validate what another contributor posted on a different thread, that they are "𝑻𝒂𝒌𝒊𝒏𝒈 𝒕𝒉𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒘𝒂𝒚 𝑭𝑶𝑹 𝑵𝑶 𝑹𝑬𝑨𝑺𝑶𝑵 𝑶𝑻𝑯𝑬𝑹 𝑻𝑯𝑨𝑵 𝑫𝑬𝑩𝑻 𝑨𝑵𝑫 𝑹𝑬𝑨𝑳 𝑬𝑺𝑻𝑨𝑻𝑬 𝑷𝑼𝑹𝑷𝑶𝑺𝑬𝑺."
It is being applied consistently. One of the criteria is whether a position is customer facing or not. Most of C&E is customer facing so they are not part of the consolidation of offices.
Yeah, it's not fair, but like others have pointed out, life is often unfair, and we have very little, if any, control over that. The bottom line is, no amount of rationalizing, arguing or pleading is going to make the so-called leadership change their minds or direction, unless it start hitting their bottom line, of course. There is literally only one thing you, and everyone with you, can do. Leave. Don't play their games. Don't wait for severance. Just resign. And if enough people do, then the RTO bs might get reconsidered.
Management that work local, ie.. C&E and I&M aren’t part of the Hub RTO mandate, for obvious reasons. If you want to stay local then apply for one of those positions but be forewarned, they are increasing their span of control and being reduced too.
Engineering is on it’s way back to being contracted out so there aren’t many if any positions available. The technician crews have already been drastically reduced over the last few years so there aren’t many management positions available there either. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side. Whiners in management, they don’t last long in the outside environment.
I doubt that T wants the guy like you in any core or hub. Your place is definitely out of enterprise world.
Don’t worry, they’ll be fired soon also.
Here's a little tip - on site or field employees do not get the pleasure of having had a WFH mandate to begin with. Hence they don't need an RTO mandate. Mind your own business and we mind ours. Period.
Life ain’t fair. Just how it is.