Is anybody else sick and tired of that phrase? I keep hearing it more and more, whenever I complain about HON (and I admit, I do complain a lot). It seems that so many people are willing to disregard so many bad things that have been happening here and horrible treatment of employees on account of "still having a job." I refuse to buy into that mentality. Work should not be something we have to prepare mentally for and something that gives us high blood pressure and insomnia. That shouldn't be considered normal. The fact so many are accepting it as such is both disheartening and frightening.
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LMAO be grateful Honeywell tells you that? Ok
@3agr, brother, I’m 99% there with you and really appreciate that deeper thought process.
But having recently left, I gotta say the follow up posters are on to something. The grass may not be deep and lush on the other side, but at least it ain’t dead, pi---d on, and sprayed in DDT…
Sincerely, if you’re one of those 30 yr lifers (I made it long enough, management was -shocked- when I walked), you owe it to yourself to go shop around a bit and see if everyone else in your band is as miserable outside Hon as inside.
@3agr, maybe get out and about before making such sweeping pronouncements. Though much of corporate America does use tactics similar to HON, they do not apply them with such a heavy and tone-deaf hand.
I love my post-HON job, making considerably more, WFH, fun people all the way to the top...got an amazing 15lb. Xmas goodie box and learned this morning that I'm getting a $5k bonus in my next paycheck after 6 mos. on the job. So it's NOT the same everywhere else.
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The grass may not be greener, but the benefits are. Often times, the work environment and corporate culture are as well.
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You should know by now that it's always just a job. Careers went the way of the dodo along with gold watches, pensions, and loyalty to employees. Don't work for free to make someone else rich. The execs don't.
The grass isn't greener anywhere else. All companies are set up to maximize profit and minimize expense. All public companies are laser focused on the stock price and making the numbers they promised. They do cosmetic stuff like philanthropy and other lip service but its all about bottom line in the end and the bonuses to the top 0.00001 %. Biggest expense is always labor. Every one of our peers and all of the silicon valley darlings that got big enough to survive treat their workers as expenses not people. I personally have a lot wrapped up in my career: education, about $1B worth of products developed over 30 years, couple dozen patents. But I always feel like I am about 5 minutes from getting pushed out for being a) a US based employee b) considerably more expensive than offshore. I do feel lucky to have a job but forgive me if I am not jumping up and down with joy because I am having to justify my existence daily to avoid being offshored. Not sure how to change this. Unionization isn't going to happen for professionals, that ship got dry-docked in 1981 when the air traffic controllers got ^$%$-canned. Offshoring is not going away, it has worked well enough for the US companies for the past few decades. Start a lawn care business maybe? Snow removal in the winter?
Evidently it's just a job to you. Carry on. To others, it's a career in which they've invested their dreams, countless hours of unpaid overtime (on salary), and years of higher education resulting in student loan debt. The losses to these employees due to the current contractive HW business model are soul-crushing.
Your irrelevant observations from the shop floor mean nothing to them.
I am happy to have a job. You make the choice to work for a corporation. Decisions are made on a corporate levell. And those same decisions are made across all corporations, regardless of the BS people here want you to believe about going somewhere else. According to a nationwide survay, I would be concidered "rich", because of my yearly income in the area that I live/work. Of course, I choose to work more than the forced overtime amount, and then I take time off when I choose to. Work hard, Play hard. Leave your workplace problems at the workplace.
@2ikr, so do I and I'm happy it's no longer at HON.
Being Republican (or Democrat for that matter) has nothing to do with it. DA is obviously a Dem and couldn't care less about you or your pay. His only job is to make Honeywell his personal cash cow until he's tired of looking at the place. After squeezing the shareholders for every dime, DA will invoke his golden parachute. Then, he'll move on and ruin another company.
My thought to that statement was that “find a job outside since I still have a job in Honeywell”. That only perspective changes your actions.
I'm happy I have a job paying over 100k
To be fair, we should pay HW to be a part of Or working for HW
I Love working for UOP. But not so much for who owns us and pushing all their political cr-p on us. To me leave that on the other side of the fence. But I guess today I am a him or is it zim LMAO Having a little fun with this so sure be down votes but sure al know how alot us feel about it UGH
Great words to keep employee pay down so executive pay can get even higher.
What gets me is that many regular employees adopt this saying and help executives get even more. What a brainwashing! Open your eyes fools.
It’s like I said to a Republican friend. They have all the right to make that much pay but they can’t make me work for peanuts. I’ll just work elsewhere.
Havent heard this for years. The four directors i have reported to over last ten years have all been far more miserable than me.
Heard this phrase many times back during the 2008 during the financial meltdown. In one ear out the other...sigh...I was just there for the paycheck every two weeks, so didn't sttess.
I have an MBA and the phrase "be happy you have a job" was never part of the curriculum.
That's such a bs phrase. Bet they teach that during MBA as top phrase to say.
I AM happy to still have a job…
Just not at Hon
I got the boot last year in the massive Covid RIF and it was the best thing that could've happened to me. I had already started putting feelers out to find something else because HW was s*.cking at my very soul and I realized that nothing was keeping me there except my own inertia.
You CAN feed your family by working elsewhere, and you might even be able to forge an upwardly mobile career path that would be impossible for a "regular guy or gal" to pull off at HW. Give yourself that chance...you just have to give yourself permission to leave and then get out of your own way! Onward and upward!
Say this positive affirmation over and over each morning and throughout the day, "I love my job". If you choose to stay at least learn to accept the pain.
OP: This website is a great forum for you to vent your frustrations.
There is a simple solution to your issue about coworkers telling you “be happy you still have a job” when you complain about Honeywell to them. Maybe stop complaining about Honeywell to the people you work with.
It won't change anything and they continue to work here for whatever personal reasons they have. For many of us this place is simply a paycheck and we go home and enjoy our lives and family. I work with someone just like you and have learned to avoid him simply because I don't want to hear it.
We were told this by management on the day in 2020 that they told us our raises were cancelled due to the excuse of panic over the plandemic. They then went on to make record profits over bilking the taxpayers for PPE. Of course, there was never any reimbursement for us "essential workers" who showed up everyday. Now they want to fire us for having natural immunity.
Yes I am. Give me another what can be worse?
They think if they keep saying over and over and over you will eventually relent and buy it. Don't. It's a trap.