Left Ford a couple years back for let’s face it better opportunities. Working at ford involved 6ish hours of meetings 5 days a week. Is that still the case? Do you still have meetings to discuss the meeting to discuss what needs to be done? Time to buy some puts on F
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@3rqd+1osiBUJ7 We used to have engineering meetings to review and discuss future engineering trends and specific known issues. Best meetings ever, so of course, they are no longer done neither.
@2qbb+1osiBUJ7 I tried to skip silly waste of time meetings, because I didn't have time to do my work. I was told to not skip ANY, because that's what I was paid to do. So I used to do my work during the meetings. Now, I keep going to meetings, but no more working my @ss off during that time.
When you say old days of meetings I go back 15+ years. We used to have a design review to review PDGS Master Sections in the big room (1J-J69?) near the PDC atrium. The functional engineering manager would attend with the engineers and suppliers. We used to pull up different CAD master sections (wipers, locks, sheetmetal, etc.) on screen for everyone to review and critique. Those meetings stopped over a decade ago.
@sgd+1osiBUJ7 What a crock. Maybe in your small subsection of ITO that is true but in general a big no on that statement
MTWT all but 1 hour is meetings. The pre-morning dept meeting, the morning dept meeting, the post-morning dept meeting, the team meeting, lunch, project team 1 meeting, vendor liaison meeting, project team 2 meeting, 1 hour free for working , quitting time
Friday is meetings until noon, then everyone calls it a day.
No and there no project managers when we had those most of my meetings were them and i questioned or declined every single one that didnt put down what the purpose or outcome of thebmeetings they always had it blank. I learned real quick if they made a meeting 9 times out of 10 i was not needed.
No more project managers thank god ever since big drop in meetings. Most days meetings are light.
In ITO, meetings have gone down by 70%. Leadership is focused on getting things done. A breath of fresh air.
@hex+1osiBUJ7 not going to happen. Emails end up getting used in lawsuits against the company. The culture switched to "verbal" only after the Firestone tires investigation.
Document nothing is now the Ford way!
"There's a terrible lack of notetaking/documentation culture" : because no one wants to take the blame when it goes bad.
"The LL4s were like two roosters at a..." (it's not just the LL4s)
such lack of team work... ford must do everything twice at least. there is where high costs come from.
Meeting, meetings and meetings. What do you expect from an indecisive management with no accountability. The meetings are basically management stating, well, ok, do what "that guy" said.
Yes. Send an email that concisely outlines what someone needs to do, relieve back either a meeting notice to discuss or worse, a request for YOU to set up a meeting.
Same useless meetings still going on each day. Nothing changed.
When you have 6 layers of management you have to have lots of meetings. The marching orders must be given from the top.
LL5-LL3 are redundant. And they are driving all the meetings. Get rid of those layers. LL2s go right to LL6s and then the work is done at the LL6/GSR level. LL5-LL3 are a waste of space.
Once went to a meeting to settle an issue between two groups. The LL4s were like two roosters at a co-k fight. Most of the meeting was spent with each of them measuring themselves. It was a joke.
@ctm+1osiBUJ7 So nothings changed. It was a bit of a culture shock moving on having my weekly total meetings be equal to about 1 Tuesday at ford. Crazy to have time to actually complete the work that needs to be done. Or meetings lasting only 10 minutes because it’s led by a no nonsense individual who asks the right questions to the right people
Yes, consistently (GDIA / technical org but I can only imagine it's worse in other divisions). A bit of a rant below, but...
You either have to join 30+ min meetings to get the 5 minutes of information that pertains to you (because the people running the meeting don't know who actually gets work done), or work blindly off incomplete technical requirements put together hastily by PMs ignorant to business needs.
There's a terrible lack of notetaking/documentation culture, and when it exists it's inevitably in the form of random word documents, email chains, or powerpoints that get tossed in the abyss or lost in the brain drain when the only person writing anything down gets fired or quits.
We even have meetings to discuss how to present our work in a way that will maximally avoid additional meetings...