I'm tired of hearing people say that EM is still a decent place to make a career. Do we even work in the same company?
I know many whose career got totally derailed here. EM may once have been a place to grow a career, but now I recommend to everyone not to stay here for a long time. This is where careers go to die.
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Experienced hire here. Getting another year of experience then hitting the ol dusty trail. This place has its head neck deep in its own a-s.
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If you are not sponsored - and if you’re an experienced hire most likely you’re not sponsored - you have NO chance of getting to retirement with EM. It seems you’ve missed all what happened in the last two years: lay-off of people getting close to RE, massive PIPing of those who are REs, NI for those who are NRE, just waiting to turn into NSI as soon as they get RE.
If you’re younger than 52, forget even about being thrown out with a 75% retirement at 55. They will get rid of you before 52.
Agree with post about experienced hire. A high level manager told me shortly after I was hired not to expect much in terms of upward mobility. I would be paid well but upper level positions were reserved for someone else.
Basically experienced hires are treated as second class citizens. Everything from having extra work dump on you (because we don’t play the game) to exclusion and to outright bullying. During a downturn, many experienced hires I knew were the first ones to be PIP’d.
After years in this toxic environment, In hindsight, I should have left sooner.
The pension is what’s keeping me here
Agreed.
And do not come as an experience hire. It will destroy your career.
After mid forties you become an expensive inconvenience to push around until you either quit on your own or after PIP.
I’d say Phucket and just leave
Agreed. Technical person here. If you are not a "leader" (read that as management), you have no career. It's a job. After almost 2 decades, I wish I had left 15 years ago. Hindsight is always 20/20, but starting in 2014, things really changed and foretold some of the past 3 yrs of pain.
If you are thinking of coming here, desperate for a job, come in, spend 2 years then leave.