Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

How much do they actually know us?

I totally agree with someone who said that decision makers don’t have a clue what work any of us do. Sometimes it seems to me that they are not at all aware of what the objections of ordinary employees are and how things look from our point of view. I am almost certain that any of them would be surprised to hear what employees actually think about this company.

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@2ubp– thank you. Appreciate for your comment. Yes, I am not cut–out for this environment. I am glad that I realized it sooner and did everything to move out.

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@2wik+1avv4rs5

The word "sine" in La––n means "without", not "empty".

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Post ID: @3vqm+1avv4rs5

@1waf, I would like to suggest that maybe you weren't feeling "incompetent"...rather, you were feeling unequipped to deal with the back–stabbing, obstruction, etc. while in fact you were quite competent at your job.

Honest, ethical people don't have to pull all the shenanigans that evidently we've both been up against, and if you're not raised in an angry, back–stabbing environment it can be shocking and troubling to find yourself in such an environment at work. It is no deficiency on your part that you've been having trouble swimming with the sharks.

Wishing you the best on your new job.

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Post ID: @2ubp+1avv4rs5

I'm amused that the company behind the survey is a new HON acquisition named "Sine" – which is La––n for "empty." Doubtful senior leadership appreciates the irony.

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Post ID: @2wik+1avv4rs5

You can explain for years.. they still won't understand. But hey, no problem making brainless decisions where things will go. These are the 'leaders'– short on vision, peddlers of technology they barely understand.

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Post ID: @1bdv+1avv4rs5

I am not exaggerating but truly I feel incompetent in just 2 years here (despite starting new initiatives and solving old problems). There is so much of resistance, centralization, back–stabbing, politics that pulls you down badly and makes you feel incompetent. Got a great offer recently and hoping to get back my mental sanity back with time.

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Post ID: @1waf+1avv4rs5

The average intelligence of a manager at the company is just that average, it is tiring having to over explain to the multiple giblet heads I have to deal with

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Post ID: @1tuu+1avv4rs5

It’s worse than worse than that... They don’t know what they don’t know and they don’t know what they do know! (Yes, it’s a body but with no brain or soul).

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Post ID: @1cek+1avv4rs5

Had a previous boss who didn't know or understand what the team does. He was smart enough not to interfere with the work. After several reorgs, was assigned a new manager who still didn't understand the work. But new manager meddles, makes decisions on his own without the team. The idea of team is gone. People leave. Talk about disruptive. It takes many years to build a well–oiled operation. Just like that, it's gone. Multiply that a thousand fold across this company.

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Post ID: @1jbu+1avv4rs5

It's probably opposite day.

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Post ID: @1pqz+1avv4rs5

It's worse than that.
They don't even know what they don't know.

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Post ID: @1aln+1avv4rs5

I've said it before and I'll say it again. THE WORK YOU DO DOESN'T MATTER. Most managers have no clue what you do and they also don't care. They exist as lazy email forwarding middlemen who don't have the skills or cognitive capacity to do the work. Look up the Peter Principle. People who are terrible at doing the work are promoted into Honeywell management to get them out of the way. Read the last 10 investor reports that Honeywell has on their website. Their strategy is all about making business units look as financially healthy as possible so they can be sold off or spun off. This means getting rid of real estate, having chronic, ongoing RIFs and restructuring of higher paid employees in the United States, and assigning jobs to people in High Growth Regions (India, Mexico, Romania) as fast as possible even if they have little or no experience in what they are hired in for. COVID accelerated this initiative. Buyers of business units want to see that there is a "resource structure" in place, and that there are low–cost people assigned to positions. Look up Corporate Smoke and Mirrors Strategy. It doesn't matter if the new hires in the HGRs know how to do the work, or if the work gets done on time, or ever. Why? That's soon going to be someone else's problem to deal with!

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Post ID: @1lgh+1avv4rs5

Worse, the low level site leaders actually care what it says even though they have absolutely no power to do anything beyond handing out candy bars and shaking their head consolingly.
We should fill it out putting massive random text into each answer. Give them 100,000 responses of completely useless BS to sift through just like the useless initiatives and yearly performance reviews we have to do. They are good at sifting made ups data... that is what they spew to Wall Street every quarter.

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Post ID: @tow+1avv4rs5

With Dairya$$ making $10,000/hr. and a massive golden parachute in the offing, I really don't think he gives a sh–t what the unwashed HW masses think. This whole survey is an HR stunt done for publicity.

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