Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Is hot desking enough to quit over? If another company gave the same pay but had an office Im out. Applying to a few right now. Hunger games ranking system plus hot desk plus offshoring equals getting a new job.

@2zwz+1muJaIOo - what compelled you to educate all of us? Seems like something a manager would do!

Is this now campus-wide?

Are shoulder injuries incurred at workplace an OSHA reportable?

I'm getting sharp pains in my shoulder and a horrible migraine from carrying around my reusable water, utensils and coffee mug to work every day. Oops, almost forgot to add my family size package of Charmin 2 ply TPs and my bosses' ba--s (which he lost 10 yrs. ago!)!

I've located the most wretched desk in the worst location.
It's a filthy little corner with no visible outdoor light of any kind.
It is always available no matter the time I arrive.

I can start my gum stalactite again!

Don’t forget the “sales” pitch by management, “you peasants asked for more collaboration space” along with all of the other garbage excuses offered.
Anyone with common sense can see what’s going on, just be honest but that’s not something management is good at nor do they want to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_desking

Hot desking (sometimes called "non-reservation-based hoteling") is an office organization system that involves multiple workers using a single physical work station or surface during different time periods.

The "desk" in the name refers to a table or other work space being shared by multiple workers on different shifts as opposed to every staff member having their own personal desk. A primary motivation for hot-desking is cost reduction through space savings—up to 30% in some cases. Hot desking is especially valuable in cities where real estate prices are high.

Hot desking is often found in workplaces with flexible schedules for employees, where not all employees are actually working in an office at the same time. Employees in such workplaces use existing offices only occasionally or for short periods, which leaves offices vacant part of the time.

By sharing offices, employees make more efficient use of space and resources. However, hot desking comes with disadvantages, including a lack of permanent space, an unclear work hierarchy, and possibly inconvenient communication between members of a team.

For some employees, hot-desking may be hard to get used to, as people have different ways of using a desk (adjusting the chair height, moving around decorations, keeping the space tidy).

An alternative version of hot desking is possible where employees have multiple tasks and multiple employees may require a certain work station, but not for their entire range of duties. Thus a permanent work station can be made available to any worker as and when needed (also known as a "touchdown" space), with employees sharing it.

This could be for a single element of one’s work, for example, when a sales employee needs an office for a client meeting, but does not otherwise need a personal office.

Another example is when employees need to perform specific tasks at work stations created for those tasks in an assembly line fashion. There, the individual work stations are not set up as personal office space. A collection of such workstations is sometimes called a mobility centre.

With the growth of mobility services, hot desking can also include the routing of voice and other messaging services to any location where the user is able to log into a corporate network. Therefore, their telephone number, their email, and instant messaging can be routed to their location on the network and no longer to just their physical desk.

The COVID-19 pandemic resulted in remote work becoming more common, with many employees only coming into the office for part of the week. This increased reliance on hot desking, to avoid paying for unused desk space.

It's also why initiatives all land in Feb/March just in time for PDS. Bank the "savings" and ignore the dumpster fire.

This is like every decision the company makes. Measure & report the small improvements / savings. Ignore & hide the cost / damage.

Save a million. Lose a billion.

Shoulder issues from carrying a coffee mug? You poor fragile thing! You should quit.

No lockers is a good sign. It means the decision is somewhat reversible.

You’re d€mb if you think anyone will be sitting in any bosses desk. They may no longer have offices, but they will have defective anchored seats within a week.

I usually roll around 9:30 or 9:45 and, upon not being able to find a desk, go back home! Works great and nobody even knows.

@1kfy+1muJaIOo I especially like it when they sit at a desk directly across from their old office. Those rooms never get used so you know it has to bother them.

Neighborhood / HotDesk encourages employees to arrive early to find their ideal cubicle/desk.

HotDesking is great for company productivity when you are incentivized to arrive early and stay late.

One thing I do love is seeing my boss’s boss and his boss traipse in every day and have to find a desk with the rest of us. It is such a great equalizer.

How did the sugar packets change? No more sugar in the raw? Will check tomorrow

About to have shoulder issues having to carry reusable water, coffee mug and reusable utensils to work since they dont give us lockers for these and dont provide disposable cups /utensils

I did it for years at W3. I loved it. Suck it up snowflakes.

Really love the suggested mitigation of arriving in the office before 7am. Work life balance folks?????!!!!!

20 min a day is a ‘good day’….desk immediately available and 10min morning/evening for pack/unpack. Plus ergo keyboard has taken so much wear in daily moves that it will probably need yearly replacement.

In a bad day, easily 40min+. If you get in on the later side, you get a desk that isn’t fully functional (ergo or IT.). Then you either have to figure out how to fix it or suffer the inefficiency.

I’ve also stopped looking for coworkers, as it takes too much time to wander around. And some people have taken to hiding in far-to-reach corners. …so back to Zoom, in which case I might as well be at home.

But writing in the wall. I’ve stopped fighting it. I will work from home more, when I am either later or just need to ‘catch up’ from the built up inefficiency.

Sounds like another d-mb idea from middle management that someone higher than them ran with.

Wow.

More than ten replies on (another) thread about hot-desking and nobody has claimed it violates their human rights (yet).

I guess the UN rejected the complaint? Maybe try again?

How about the sugar packets and the toilet paper? Planning to claim those violate your human rights too?

Get over yourselves, once and for all.

@1lui+1muJaIOo is right. 48+ is too low. Should be >= 80hr. 2 weeks is more like it. OP didn't get the calculation as close as possible.

Comprehension is hard for some because 48+ means a minimum of 48hrs (but clearly more) without OP getting into all the details on vacation allotment and holidays which reduce the base of working days. Do you want a Monte Carlo simulation or something bud? Let it ride maaaang.

20 minutes a day works out to 48 hours a year for you? That means you are only working 144 days or just over 7 months a year and you’re whining? Please post your name so we can PIP you, oh never mind, we’ll just check the badge in. Bye bye.

Hot desking success is biased toward the people who work early hours due to commute restrictions, e.g., 0630-1530. People who have morning family obligations, but, who can work until 1800 are left on the short end of the stick. Presumably, we don't need to find people because we're all connected on the intranet. However, that is the basis for RTO. Hot desking is logically flawed for routine office workers. It's a great idea for itinerant sales people or maintenance people who only occasionally need to be in the office.

Simple, get to work earlier or find another job. Either way, quit crying, just STFU.

@1cvb+1muJaIOo arriving early fixes 1) and 5) from OP's list, but not everything

@mgl+1muJaIOo <-- that's the spirit

@jls+1muJaIOo good point. Only fix is to switch to another company.

Get to work early (before 7am) ya sap.

Save a million to lose a billion.

I've been hot boxing my desk. I've found it to be very productive.

“Neighborhood/Hot Desk Productivity Losses”

1. Management doesn’t care
2. Nobody knows how to measure productivity
3. You probably don’t do much anyway

If you don’t like their office, find another job. Worked for me.